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פה,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89589/file/185506#t=14239.4,14245.4"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89589/file/185506/transcript/42874/annotation/2568","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ששר החוץ המצרי שהתפטר\nכשסאדאת נסע לירושלים. מה קרה?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89589/file/185506#t=14245.6,14251.24"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89589/file/185506/transcript/42874/annotation/2569","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"קיסינג'ר בא עם הפורמולה הזאת 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לקיסינג'ר","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89589/file/185506#t=14265.28,14269.96"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89589/file/185506/transcript/42874/annotation/2572","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"את הטקסט הזה יכול היה לכתוב\nרק אחד עם מוח מעוות","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89589/file/185506#t=14270.28,14277.24"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89589/file/185506/transcript/42874/annotation/2573","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ומהפכות קרו כזה.\nזה מאיר רוזן.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89589/file/185506#t=14277.32,14281.52"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89589/file/185506/transcript/42874/annotation/2574","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז אומר לו קיסינג'ר אדוני אני בכלל\nלא מכיר את מאיר רוזן.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89589/file/185506#t=14281.6,14285.6"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89589/file/185506/transcript/42874/annotation/2575","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"זה היה נכון במרץ.\nהוא הכיר אותי בספטמבר.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89589/file/185506#t=14285.68,14290.64"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89589/file/185506/transcript/42874/annotation/2576","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"זה כתב את זה מרדכי גזית.\nהוא אומר זה לא נכון, זה רק","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89589/file/185506#t=14290.92,14296.8"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89589/file/185506/transcript/42874/annotation/2577","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"רוזן היה מסוגל לכתוב דבר כזה,\nיש פה לא על סוף המלחמה,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89589/file/185506#t=14297.0,14301.52"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89589/file/185506/transcript/42874/annotation/2578","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"יש פה שלום חמש פעמים ואנחנו\nלא יכולים לקבל את זה","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89589/file/185506#t=14301.6,14306.44"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89589/file/185506/transcript/42874/annotation/2579","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ואחר כך פאמי ממשיך.\nרבין כתב את הזכרונות שלו","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89589/file/185506#t=14306.52,14311.56"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89589/file/185506/transcript/42874/annotation/2580","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"והוא באמת כותב את הזה\nומודה שזה רוזן כתב את זה.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89589/file/185506#t=14311.76,14317.32"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89589/file/185506/transcript/42874/annotation/2581","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"עכשיו יש לי חמישה עמודים שם...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89589/file/185506#t=14317.48,14322.28"}]},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89589/file/185506/transcript/42874","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Hebrew 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