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זה?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=1285.24,1288.64"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/328","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"היה פרופ' 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אצ\"ל.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=1456.36,1460.76"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/373","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אתה נוסע לאנגליה ב-193...\n-שלוש.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=1460.84,1465.28"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/374","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז עוד לא היה אצ\"ל.\n-עוד היה היה אצ\"ל.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=1466.08,1468.04"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/375","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"זה היה עדיין \"הגנה ב'\".\n-הגנה ב'.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=1468.2,1471.56"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/376","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ואני רציתי להיכנס ל\"ההגנה\" קודם\nאז הייתי רק בן 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ללונדון.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=1481.0,1482.96"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/379","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מתי החלטת שאתה רוצה\nללמוד משפטים?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=1483.16,1485.44"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/380","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"תמיד.\n-תמיד רצית?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=1485.52,1487.36"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/381","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז למה למדת בסמינר למורים?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=1488.16,1491.64"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/382","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"זה היה בית ספר תיכון.\n-תיכון לכל 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תיכון.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=1497.0,1500.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/385","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אבל אבי היה דתי.\n-אז הוא שלח אותך לזה, ברור.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=1500.12,1503.92"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/386","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז תמיד רצית להיות עורך דין?\n-כן.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=1504.68,1506.6"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/387","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"משך אותך הנושא הזה.\n-כן.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=1506.68,1508.48"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/388","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"היה לך מישהו במשפחה עורך דין?\n-לא, אבל אבי למד 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יושב.\n-ושומע.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=2334.56,2336.84"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/607","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא.\n-אלא?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=2336.92,2338.2"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/608","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"שם בטוח יותר.\n-ברור, אבל אתה ניצלת את 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וכדומה.\n-כן.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=2349.76,2351.2"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/613","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אבל הייתי בסביבה.\nשם לא בלשו.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=2352.36,2356.92"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/614","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מה שכן הייתה לי 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צריך...\n-בחבניה.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=3706.24,3708.24"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/932","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"חבניה הוא נוחת.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=3708.32,3709.28"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/933","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אחר כך הוא שלח שני 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אצלכם?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=3775.24,3776.32"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/952","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"פתאום אצ\"ל, האוטוריטה ה...\n-לא.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=3778.0,3782.68"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/953","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ז'בוטינסקי היה האוטוריטה הפורמלית.\n-פורמלית 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הקוד.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4543.84,4545.04"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"שם היו כל השאלות ושם היה ההסבר\nבנוגע לשימוש בקוד.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4545.52,4550.84"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"הכול היה שם.\n-מה זה היה הקוד לדוגמה?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4550.96,4553.16"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כל אות היה לה אות אחרת\nאו משהו...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4553.44,4556.2"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מה היה הרעיון של הקוד?\nאם אתה 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תמונה.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4563.92,4568.36"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"של קוד כזה.\n-אחד הקודים.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4568.96,4572.16"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"בסדר, אני אסתכל עליו.\n-נדמה לי שיש פה.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4572.36,4576.48"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"קוד מאוד פרימיטיבי.\nהיום לא הייתי מסתדר.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4576.56,4580.96"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אחר כך גם לא היינו משתמשים\nבקוד 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הקשר?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4587.04,4591.8"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"קשר עם מי?\n-עם הרביזיוניסטים באותן מדינות.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4591.88,4596.64"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"הקשר היה בנוי על כך","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4597.0,4598.52"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"שהקו הוא של ז'בוטינסקי\nשל שיתוף פעולה עם הבריטים","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4599.68,4604.72"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ושהם מבקשים מהם להשתתף\nבפעולה נגד הגרמנים,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4605.44,4610.72"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"נגד האקצה.\n-עכשיו...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4610.92,4614.88"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ואיזה שיתוף פעולה זה?\nלטובת מה? להעביר ידיעות?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4615.84,4619.44"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ידיעות, כן.\n-ידיעות.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4619.64,4620.72"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אתה היית מקבל מהם דיווחים?\n-ודאי.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4620.96,4623.64"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז ככה, מרומניה היו דיווחים\nבלתי רגילים","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4624.04,4628.08"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כי שמואל אריאל","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4629.4,4633.12"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אם נולד אדם שיודע לתת שוחד,\nזה היה הוא.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4634.2,4637.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"בשבילו עבדו קציני בולשת,\nפקידים ממשלתיים","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4639.76,4645.96"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"והדוחות שהיינו מקבלים מרומניה\nהיו בלתי רגילים.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4646.48,4649.76"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ממש על כל שאלה\nהיינו מקבלים תשובות.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4650.36,4652.6"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ואיך הוא עשה את זה?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4654.48,4655.88"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"הוא גם היה...\nהוא אהב לעשות קונצים.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4657.92,4660.28"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"במקום להשתמש\nבכל הסודות שנתתי לו,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4661.24,4663.88"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"פתאום אני מקבל טלפון\nואומרים לי שזה 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אריאל.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4671.8,4673.4"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"חשבתי שהוא משוגע.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4673.52,4675.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ידעתי שהוא אוהב לשתות.\nחשבתי שהוא שיכור.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4675.36,4679.2"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"הוא אמר: בתשובה לשאלה\nמספר אחת,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4680.48,4682.8"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"דיביזיה זאת וזאת נמצאת פה ופה\nודיביזיה זאת וזאת נמצאת 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לטלפון.\n-טלפון.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4691.16,4692.96"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"הוא גומר והוא אומר:\nתשמע, אל תדאג.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4694.88,4696.64"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"בסוף השיחה אני מקבל את התקליט\nואני שובר אותו 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מ...\n-בולגריה.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4711.16,4713.52"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"בבולגריה השתמשנו בדיו כימי.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4714.04,4720.88"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"סתרים, דיו 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ב\n-כן.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4762.96,4764.96"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"היה להם מישהו שידע לקלוט ולפענח?\n-כן, כן, כן.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4765.08,4768.48"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ומה הייתה רמת הדוחות שם\nמבולגריה?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4769.64,4773.88"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"בבולגריה היו טובים מאוד.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4773.96,4775.64"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"הכי טובים היו מהונגריה.\n-מהונגריה. מי היה 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לאיסטנבול.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4795.32,4799.8"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"גם הם שיתפו איתנו פעולה.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4800.12,4802.4"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"איך הייתה התקשורת עם הונגריה?\n-עם הונגריה?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4804.8,4807.76"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"הונגריה.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4807.84,4808.32"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"דרך הסוחרים האלה.\n-דרך הסוחרים.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4808.4,4810.76"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"זאת אומרת הם היו מעבירים דוחות\nגם כן עם דיו סתרים?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4810.92,4813.72"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא, הם לא היו צריכים דיו סתרים.\nהיו באים ומדווחים.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4813.84,4817.76"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1204","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אבל גם היו דוחות סודיים,\nכלומר בכתב סתרים","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4818.4,4822.44"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"והיינו מקבלים אותם בתיבות דואר,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4823.6,4826.2"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"והיה בלדר אחד של וישי,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4826.92,4832.12"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"צרפתי 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הונגריה.\n-ובולגריה.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4854.24,4857.72"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"יוון גם?\n-יוון.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4858.12,4859.8"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"יוון היה אדם בשם 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ספנות.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4868.96,4870.68"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"והוא ארגן לי קשר עם היוונים","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4872.28,4875.68"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"עד כדי כך שאפילו יצאתי לאחד האיים פעם\nעל יד טורקיה,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4875.96,4882.52"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ונפגשתי עם סוכנים לעתיד.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4882.8,4886.68"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מי זה היו, יהודים?\n-לא, לא, 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גרמנים.\n-כן.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4900.12,4902.04"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כמה זמן היית בשליחות הזו בטורקיה?\n-שנתיים אני 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42'.\n-עד?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4908.68,4913.16"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"עד 44'. עד אוגוסט 44'.\n-עד אוגוסט.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=4913.64,4917.48"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1230","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"זה כבר תקופה הרת גורל 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בריטניה.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=5193.48,5196.56"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1296","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז בפני השלטונות הטורקיים הייתי רשום שם.\n-כאילו איש מסחר.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=5197.32,5202.28"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1297","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא, פקיד, אבל במחלקת קניות\nממשלתית 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בעצם...\n-פורמלי.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=5300.28,5303.72"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1324","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"שלב לקראת מעברך לשליחות הזאת.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=5303.88,5306.84"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1325","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"למי היית מדווח?\n-מה פירוש? הייתי 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בראשו.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=5904.44,5910.28"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1474","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז לא היה לי קשר.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=5910.56,5911.88"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1475","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כבר נותק לחלוטין הקשר?\n-כן.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=5912.08,5913.96"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1476","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"נותק לחלוטין הקשר?\n-כן.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=5914.04,5916.48"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1477","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"גם הבריטים לא ביקשו\nאת עזרתך בשום דבר?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=5917.0,5920.32"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1478","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=5920.4,5921.2"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1479","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז אתה ב... מאותו רגע אתה למעשה\nכבר לא קשור לאצ\"ל כלל וכלל.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=5921.68,5926.56"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1480","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא.\n-הבנתי.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=5926.64,5928.72"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1481","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"איך אתה...\n-רגע אחד.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=5928.8,5931.6"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1482","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מרידור איכשהו היה קשור איתי.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=5937.36,5939.56"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1483","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מרידור לפני כי מרידור בזמן הזה\nהיה כבר באפריקה.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=5940.32,5944.52"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1484","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"הוא ברח מאפריקה.\n-הוא ברח,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=5945.68,5946.72"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1485","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אבל הוא הגיע רק ב-48' הוא הגיע 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וגוברת.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=5971.72,5976.88"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1494","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"האם אתה כעורך דין שותף לייצוג?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=5977.28,5983.68"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1495","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אתה מייצג אנשי מחתרת שנתפסים?\n-כן.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=5983.88,5987.08"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1496","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"את מי?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=5987.16,5988.16"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1497","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"תראה, אני זוכר ש...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=5996.88,5998.44"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1498","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"היה מנחם ברגר.\n-מנחם ברגר.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=6000.84,6004.4"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1499","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"הוא היה היחיד מאנשי אצ\"ל?\n-לא, היו 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מוות?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=6023.2,6028.12"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1502","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא.\n-לא.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=6028.24,6029.56"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1503","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אבל כאלה בטח שהיו במעצר מנהלי.\n-במעצר, כן.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=6030.08,6033.88"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1504","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"היו גם כאלו שהיו גולים\nבאפריקה, בקניה,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=6034.6,6039.52"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1505","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"שגם באמצעותך ניסו להשתדל לטובתם?\n-יכול 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שניים.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=6052.0,6056.44"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1508","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אתה התמקדת אבל בתחום המסחרי,\nאני מבין.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=6057.04,6059.64"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1509","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן, כן.\n-בתחום 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תעשיינים,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=6065.04,6068.44"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1512","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"משה ויסגלס אם זה אומר לך משהו.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=6069.56,6072.24"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1513","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"סוחרים? יבואנים?\n-כן.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=6072.76,6074.8"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1514","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"היו...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=6078.56,6079.76"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1515","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"תן לי להיזכר.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=6082.8,6083.88"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1516","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן, היו קבלנים. קבלנים.\n-קבלנים.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=6083.96,6087.12"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1517","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אתה שותף באיזושהי דרך\nפרט למעקב...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=6087.92,6091.32"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1518","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"היה ארמרניק.\n-איזה שם?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=6091.52,6094.56"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1519","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"היה קבלן בשם ארמרניק\nשהיה פעם 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רוטשטיין.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=6332.28,6334.52"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1578","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"משה רוטשטיין.\n-שהיה סוכן בריטי.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=6336.4,6338.64"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1579","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"משה רוטשטיין\nהיה סוכן משנה של...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=6339.48,6343.24"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1580","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מה היה שמו?\nהיה סוכן מזכרון יעקב.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=6348.96,6353.2"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1581","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן, דוידסקו.\n-דוידסקו.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=6353.44,6355.04"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1582","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"הוא היה עוזר של דוידסקו.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=6355.12,6356.56"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1583","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"עוזר של 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צה\"ל?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=6382.2,6389.56"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1592","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ב-48'.\n-מתי, במאי? במאי 48'?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=6390.68,6394.08"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1593","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"עם הקמתו של צה\"ל?\n-בערך, כן, כן.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=6395.44,6398.36"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1594","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"עוד לפני הקמתו של צה\"ל.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=6398.44,6399.64"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1595","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"עוד שלושה חודשים\nלפני הקמתו של 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אדם.\n-קודם.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=6408.52,6410.68"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1600","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ואחר כך הייתי ביחידה של מרגמות","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=6411.04,6414.04"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1601","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"על יד כפר יונה.\n-על יד כפר 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35?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=6422.12,6425.36"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1604","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=6425.44,6426.36"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1605","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"זה היה גדוד של מרגמות כבדות\nשהמפקד היה 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זייגרמן?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=7345.76,7348.2"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1843","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"דרור זייגרמן.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=7348.28,7349.08"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1844","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"היית מקורב 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לא?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=7460.4,7462.44"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1869","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אינני זוכר.\n-אינך זוכר.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=7464.52,7466.08"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1870","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ואז מגיעות הבחירות...\n-מי היו השרים בעצם?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=7466.44,7469.72"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1871","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"השרים היו ארליך.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=7470.0,7471.32"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1872","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"שריר.\n-שריר, אברשה.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=7474.0,7476.68"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1873","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"היו עוד.\nאני לא זוכר מי.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=7480.04,7481.8"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1874","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אני נכנסתי לממשלה ב-81'.\n-ב-81'.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=7481.92,7484.96"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1875","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"זהו, היו בחירות נוספות,\nבחירות,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=7485.56,7489.48"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1876","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מנחם בגין עשה קואליציה מחדש\nואתה מתמנה שר 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מודעי.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=7502.36,7503.44"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1879","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מודעי עבר למשרד...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=7503.76,7508.32"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1880","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מודעי לא עבר לשום משרד אז.\nהוא היה אופוזיציה אני 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מאוחר.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=7516.12,7518.24"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1883","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז מודעי לא היה\nבממשלה השנייה של בגין?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=7518.76,7523.24"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1884","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"הוא היה בממשלה.\n-אולי שר בלי תיק?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=7523.36,7525.88"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1885","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"בלי תיק אני חושב.\n-בלי תיק.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=7525.96,7527.36"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1886","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ואתה מתמנה שר האנרגיה.\n-אנרגיה.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=7527.6,7529.56"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1887","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"והתשתית.\n-והתשתית, כמובן.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=7530.32,7532.64"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1888","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"זה המשרד של פואד.\n-פואד 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וחצי.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=7541.96,7543.8"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1891","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ראשית כול,\nאני ביטלתי את תוכנית...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=7546.16,7548.28"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1892","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"תעלת הימים.\n-תעלת הימים.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=7548.36,7550.36"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1893","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"זה לא היה קל\nכי זה היה אידאולוגיה שלמה.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=7551.72,7556.36"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1894","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ומשה ארנס ראה בזה...\n-בכייה לדורות.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=7556.88,7561.24"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1895","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"טוב, היום בגלל זה אולי נעלם ים המלח.\nהולך ונעלם.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=7561.68,7565.28"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/1896","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא, אבל אז לא דובר על ים 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85'.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=8003.44,8005.56"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/2015","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ומאותו רגע המשרד קיים עדיין?\n-לא.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=8005.64,8008.44"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/2016","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"סגרת אותו. יופי.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=8008.52,8011.88"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/2017","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אתה מרוצה? אתה נהנה?\nכשאתה מסתכל לאחור במבט לאחור?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=8012.04,8016.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/2018","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא רע.\n-היו לך חיים מעניינים, 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הזר.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=8039.4,8041.36"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/2025","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא ראיתי את הסרט.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=8041.48,8042.92"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/2026","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא,\nזה מעניין היסטורית כי אני 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גמור.\nיופי.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=8119.32,8121.52"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/2047","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מדוע לא? אני בעד פעילות.\n-כן, יפה.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325#t=8121.72,8126.24"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89504/file/185325/transcript/42659/annotation/2048","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"פלג אתה רוצה עוגה?\n-אני לא 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