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המיתלה.\n-סליחה?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/98073/file/195198#t=11142.2,11144.6"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/98073/file/195198/transcript/44876/annotation/2637","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"הזכרת את המיתלה.\n-כן.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/98073/file/195198#t=11144.68,11146.76"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/98073/file/195198/transcript/44876/annotation/2638","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"עכשיו לפני המיתלה, צריך עוד דבר אחד.\nחזרנו לארץ,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/98073/file/195198#t=11146.84,11150.24"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/98073/file/195198/transcript/44876/annotation/2639","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"עוד במטוס הברקנו למאיר עמית\nלגייס את כל המילואים, לשריון וכן הלאה.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/98073/file/195198#t=11151.36,11155.76"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/98073/file/195198/transcript/44876/annotation/2640","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"להתחיל את ההכנות. היה...\nאנחנו מדברים על עוד חמישה 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ל...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/98073/file/195198#t=11170.28,11172.6"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/98073/file/195198/transcript/44876/annotation/2645","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לבצע הטעיה לירדנים וכולי.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/98073/file/195198#t=11172.68,11175.04"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/98073/file/195198/transcript/44876/annotation/2646","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לדיין הייתה שאלה מה אומרים לצבא.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/98073/file/195198#t=11176.52,11179.16"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/98073/file/195198/transcript/44876/annotation/2647","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"פתאום הוא בא ומציע תוכנית\nבלתי צבאית למהדרין. לא הגיונית למהדרין.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/98073/file/195198#t=11179.96,11186.16"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/98073/file/195198/transcript/44876/annotation/2648","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"את חטיבת המחץ, את הצנחנים,\nהוא מבזבז על איזה גבעות 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זה?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/98073/file/195198#t=11243.4,11245.2"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/98073/file/195198/transcript/44876/annotation/2665","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז הוא בא ארצה, מכנס את האלופים","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/98073/file/195198#t=11245.28,11247.96"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/98073/file/195198/transcript/44876/annotation/2666","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ואומר להם, \"תשמעו. אנחנו נשנה את התוכניות\nבדרך שלא תבינו 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כבר...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/98073/file/195198#t=11281.48,11282.68"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/98073/file/195198/transcript/44876/annotation/2675","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא בטוח אם היה סטנוגרפיסט,\nאבל אני רשמתי ודאי את הפרטים.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/98073/file/195198#t=11282.76,11286.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/98073/file/195198/transcript/44876/annotation/2676","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"והם באמת לא 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