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This is an interview about your father-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=1.0,18.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan Herlands: Correct.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=18.0,19.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: -who was another volunteer, shall we say, from America who helped build this country.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=19.0,28.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: That is correct.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=28.0,3619.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: Let's start first just a straight biography. I see on your notes, he was born in 1905. Just give me a little bit of his biography.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=3619.0,3637.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: Right. He was born in New York, and educated in New York. He went to Erasmus High School, he went to City College, where he excelled.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=3637.0,3648.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: Where did he grow up in New York?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=3648.0,3649.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: They started at the Lower East Side, and then they migrated to Brooklyn.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=3649.0,3655.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: A classic American immigrant story.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=3655.0,3656.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: A classic American story. He was on the Columbia Law Review at Columbia. He was really a real scholar even at a young age. Then, he worked in private practice for three years for a gentleman who then was tapped by the President to become the US Attorney in New York for the Southern District of New York, the Federal Prosecutor, like the position that Giuliani held in New York.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=3656.0,3686.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: And Morgenthau before him.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=3686.0,3688.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: Morgenthau was the District Attorney.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=3688.0,3693.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: Oh, sorry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=3693.0,3693.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: District Attorney is on the state level, US Attorney is at the whole for the Southern District. He asked my father who had worked for him as a law associate to come with him.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=3693.0,3706.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: This was whom?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=3706.0,3707.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: This was George Medalie.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=3707.0,3711.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: Spell it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=3711.0,3712.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: M-E-D-A-L-I-E, who actually turned out to be-- Was Jewish. If we have time later, there's an amazing side story, but it's not relevant specifically to the story of my father and Israel. In any event, my father entered the world of the prosecutor, and it's a world that he never left, until he became a federal judge. He was a federal prosecutor for a number of years. Then, he came to the attention of Fiorello La Guardia, who was looking to create the Office of City Commissioner of Investigation because-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=3712.0,3753.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: La Guardia is being the Mayor of New York?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=3753.0,3754.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: Mayor of New York, because there was tremendous corruption in the city. He asked my father to become the first City Commissioner of Investigation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=3754.0,7219.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: Why do you think he asked him?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=7219.0,7363.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: I think he already had a stellar reputation working for the federal prosecutor's office, in which he encountered the most notorious gangsters who were operating on a federal level, whether it was Murder, Incorporated at the time, people like Meyer Lansky, et cetera, people who controlled slot machines, all kinds of, at that time, illegal enterprises.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=7363.0,10819.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: When you watched The Godfather, you thought you were watching your own story?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=10819.0,10994.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: It was interesting. More Eliot Ness and that era. He then went and worked for the state prosecutor as a special prosecutor, investigating the Waterfront Commission, which there was tremendous fraud committed, really by organized crime, the Mafia at that time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=10994.0,14419.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: And payoffs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=14419.0,14620.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: Payoffs and corruption, et cetera. From that point on, which is really the late '30s, I want to just telescope this to you--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=14620.0,18019.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: You can elaborate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=18019.0,18232.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: During the war years, my father, at that point, was the City Commissioner of Investigation under La Guardia, and because of his knowledge and experience with the Mafia, he actually became involved in a covert project with OSS, which was the Office of Strategic Services.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=18232.0,21619.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: The pre-runner of the CIA.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=21619.0,21858.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: That's right, the precursor of the CIA. It was a wartime agency that was involved in coordinating, for the most part, espionage behind enemy lines. They also were involved in many other espionage and covert activities. There was a report that German submarines during the war had landed off the coast of Long Island, the Long Island Sound, and that Nazi spies had gained access to the docks with submarine off the docks. The intelligence became known to people in federal and city government.\n\nMy father was asked to participate in a mission to actually recruit members of the Mob, who he had prosecuted, to assist America in getting information about the Nazis, and helping to catch them. To make a long story short, he was very involved with these people, who had always been his sworn enemies. They created a dragnet. They were going to deliver ship movement information and dock activity movement information to the Nazis.\n\nThey were all caught together. The Mob members, who were very patriotic, even though they were also very corrupt, were very, very appreciated for this. It's one of the reasons why Lucky Luciano, who was key to the operation, was deported and never really served a lot of hard time. It was a reward for what he did for the United States Navy Intelligence during that time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=21858.0,25219.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: When they were asked by your father to help the sting operation, why would they say, \"Yes\"?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=25219.0,25562.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: I think that it appealed to their patriotic bent. I think that they also realized that they would receive some beneficial treatment under it. The person that they trusted, despite the fact that he had prosecuted them, was my father, who was just an uncorruptible person. He gained their respect. It was an interesting time for my father to have made these contacts in the intelligence community, and gave him, I think, a window into a whole range of activities that he normally wouldn't have done.\n\nI need to segue with you, because my father married my mother. My father was a secular Jew. He married my mother who came from a very Orthodox family. My mother's family name was Bendheim. She was the daughter of Siegfried and Nannette Bendheim, who were philanthropic and very involved in America, but also involved in Israel.\n\nApart from the fact that my father swore to my mother that he would become Orthodox when they married, which he did, he became involved, not very long after they were married, in an organization called the United Palestine Appeal. He became an executive officer of that on a volunteer basis. That was the precursor of UJA-Federation. It merged with the Joint in the late 1930s, but was one of the organizations that started to fundraise for Israel.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=25562.0,28819.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: What year was this?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=28819.0,29261.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: This was probably 1939, 1940. Even at that point my father, apparently, it's not something he discussed with me, had started to become interested in support for Israel. I think he was very influenced by the philanthropy of Siegfried and Nannette Bendheim, and my mother's Zionism, and my uncle Charles Bendheim's Zionism and involvement.\n\nIn the late 1940s, after the war, you should just know my father was president of the OU from 1949 to 1951. He was not only involved on the Israel side, but he was, obviously, involved in administrative and organizational efforts for the Orthodox Union, and was concerned about the dissemination, spread, and vitality of Orthodoxy in our community and across the country.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=29261.0,32419.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: Finish what happened, just before I forget it, to sting operation with the Nazis on a submarine, what was the outcome of that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=32419.0,32936.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: The outcome of that was, as I said that they were all-- It was a classified operation and in fact, I only knew about it after my father died in 1969. He never spoke about it. He felt that a federal judge-- He was City Commissioner, as I said under La Guardia. La Guardia became a good friend of our family and came to one of our Pesach Sdarim with his wife.\n\nIt was remarkable, but well before my time. Governor Tom Dewey heard about dad, he was already working as a special prosecutor for the Richmond County in Richmond County Investigation. Dewey asked my father to come and become the first New York State Commissioner of Investigation. My father created that position, and was State Commissioner of Investigation from '54 to '55.\n\nAt that time, my father had spoken to Dewey and said that he was very interested in becoming a judge. Dewey recommended him to President Eisenhower. At that time, there happened to be a slot that needed to be filled in the Southern District. Eisenhower appointed my father to become the first Orthodox federal judge in the history of the United States. There have been several since, but he was the first. He was a federal judge from 1955 until his death, unfortunately, in 1969.\n\nI was only 18 when he passed away. I just didn't really have an opportunity to learn about this, remember to ask. The information was something that my mother shared with me over time, really after my father passed away. We knew that they had taken a trip to Israel in 1947. That's where this picks up, because my father had spent his whole--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=32936.0,36019.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: Why don't you go back a bit?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=36019.0,36656.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=36656.0,39619.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: You're touching on so many different things, all good, and I want to milk them for what we can. The Nazi thing, I was talking about, how many people did they eventually arrest? Did you look it up? Did you Google it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=39619.0,40268.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: I don't know. In the Wikipedia summary for my father, this operation is not included, because I guess it wasn't part of his state official duties. This was, at that time, a covert operation that was done really outside of the realm of his official state functions for, of course, the United States government. I would have to look. We did at one point have copies of a letter that he received from the Secretary of the Navy, thanking him and saying that it would not be disclosed. I don't know, I can't tell you the specifics of how many people were dragnetted in this operation, but the operation was closed down as a result of this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=40268.0,43219.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: No other Nazi submarines came close to this?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=43219.0,43926.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: That I can't tell you. I can only tell you that the operation that my father was involved in was considered a resounding success.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=43926.0,46819.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: Okay. Here's my next question. The organization he was-- The precursor of the UJA was called the--?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=46819.0,47539.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: Right. It was called the United Palestine Appeal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=47539.0,50419.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: Palestine Appeal, okay. My question is, because we know famously of the mobsters who helped run arms to Israel in the Yishuv before the State, and because of your father's involvement in this thing with the mobsters, my question is, was he part of that operation to help pre-State Israel receive arms, money, et cetera?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=50419.0,51171.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: I can tell you as definitively as someone who didn't speak to him directly can, that my father would never have participated in an operation which could have come back-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=51171.0,54019.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: Oh, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=54019.0,54783.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: -and affected him- [crosstalk]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=54783.0,57619.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: As a state, as a federal --, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=57619.0,58385.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: -or could have been deemed to be illegal. He was meticulously careful. When he was a judge and when he was a prosecutor, he never wanted to be photographed. Sometimes, he was photographed taking mobsters in handcuffs, and there was a picture of Herlands or the Herlands Commission. He was really known in New York. My father declined every interview when he was a judge. He never thought it was proper for a judge to be interviewed.\n\nHe didn't think it was proper to give comments to the press, that judges should simply be above that. They hear facts and law that are discussed with them in a courtroom. They are not politicians, they're not legislators, and they're not political commentators. He was meticulously clear about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=58385.0,61219.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: You wouldn't know, even if you would have known about the arms running, but never said anything, and looked the other way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=61219.0,62035.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: I wouldn't know. As much as we would love to make our parents-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=62035.0,64819.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: Bigger heroes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=64819.0,65642.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: -greater than life and more heroic, part of this is also to be faithful to the kind of person that he was. That would just have not been dad's MO. It just wouldn't have been him. Wouldn't have been he.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=65642.0,68419.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: Okay. Do you know, what he did specifically for the Palestine really?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=68419.0,69258.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: He must have been involved again-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=69258.0,69260.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: Raising money.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=69260.0,69261.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: -with fundraising. We were, at that time, very active in the West Side Institutional Synagogue, which was a synagogue on the west side of Manhattan. That was a very prominent shul. I'm sure that he spoke there. He was a board member of that synagogue. Even in the years that he became a judge, he stayed on. That was the only board that he stayed on as a judge.\n\nObviously, it meant something, and it had an impact on him. To try to gauge the degree of that impact is very difficult, because I didn't speak to him. I just don't think that my mother could have calibrated it, but when he was called upon, and the circumstances of that, I also don't know. When he was called upon to go to Israel, he went. He went for this project.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=69261.0,69311.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: Okay, what do you know?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=69311.0,69312.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: What I know is what my mother told me. This is really second-hand. My mother was also not one to exaggerate. He had been contacted, by whom, I don't know. Whether it was from someone here, who had spoken to someone in Israel, or whether it was from people directly in Israel, who knew his involvement because of his involvement in this precursor of the UJA, and because they knew of the involvement of the Bendheim family.\n\nThey were assembling a small group of outstanding jurists, lawyers, I don't know if they were judges or not, who were being asked to come to Israel to assist them in establishing a Ministry of Justice. That was something that Ben-Gurion felt very strongly about. He wanted to have a brain trust from America of people to assist in that effort. My father had been a federal prosecutor, he had been a state prosecutor, he was a City's Commissioner of Investigation, State Commissioner of Investigation. No one knew more-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=69312.0,69387.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: About crime.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=69387.0,69388.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: -about the justice system and checks and balances than my father. He was a great choice for a person to go. My parents went. My brother and sister were small at the time. I don't know what arrangements they made. I think she told me that they went for two weeks to Israel, and spent most of their time in Tel Aviv. My father spending most of his time in a building, which was where all of these meetings were taking place, which was the equivalent of whatever The Kirya is now or the building.\n\nShe said that, one day he asked to have her come along to meet some of the people that he was working with. The person who was walking them through had to go somewhere, so my parents wandered along the hall, and they opened the door, and inside were generals and military people, maps on the walls. They looked at them when they came in, and they said, \"You're in the wrong room.\"\n\nI remember that my mother said to me that she was just taken aback. She said, \"We were just in a war room.\" My father said, \"Well, that's something that you know and I know, but no one else will know.\" Of course, she told this to me, recent history. Then, they went back, and my mother had an opportunity to meet the people that my father was working with. I don't know any of their names.\n\nI don't know if my father ever met Ben-Gurion directly, but I do know that after this process was concluded, I believe it was either at the end of the time that my father was there, or shortly after my parents returned to America, Ben-Gurion communicated to my father, possibly through someone else, probably, through someone else that, he wanted to know if my father would consider becoming Israel's first Minister of Justice.\n\nI think that he was probably asking a number of people. I don't know if my father was asked first, or asked fourth. My mother, at that time, really did not see herself, I think, living in Israel. My father also was in the midst of an extraordinary career that was moving ever higher, and still very much was interested in becoming a federal judge here. For them, the timing wasn't right.\n\nOf course, she said that he was so appreciative of having been asked, but he discussed it with no one. He told my mother that he didn't want anyone knowing what was on Ben-Gurion's mind, what was on Israel's mind, what their timing was, what instrumentalities of the government were being set up. I remember that he told my mother, \"You cannot know what information is valuable to an enemy. Any information that we could give in a haphazard way that can fall into the hands of enemies, how they're building this system, what they're basing it on, what are their priorities, is something that's no one's business, it's your business and mine.\" That was the kind of man.\n\nHe was not a man of fanfare. He was self-effacing. He once told an audience at the synagogue, he said, \"Everyone always calls me an official, Mr. Judge, Herlands the official, you know what official is? It's a little fish.\" It was something I never forgot, official is a little fish.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=69388.0,69621.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: Do you know the date of the two-week period when he was-- ?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=69621.0,69623.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: I don't-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=69623.0,69624.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: Approximately?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=69624.0,69625.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: -but I know that we have movies, where there's only one frame of my father in the movies that we think that they took on that trip of Israel. It's barren, and part of it is the view into the Old City. It's in no specific order. Clearly, my father would not have had any photographs taken of him approaching the areas in Tel Aviv, where he was working or meeting, or anything like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=69625.0,69656.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: Do you know the year? Was it '47, '48?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=69656.0,69657.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: It was '47.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=69657.0,69660.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Faye Bittker: Do you want to drink something?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=69660.0,69661.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: No, I'm just tired.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=69661.0,69663.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: Yes, your voice is a little bit--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=69663.0,69663.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: I'm fine. It's just me. That's really what I know of his involvement at that time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=69663.0,69675.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: He didn't speak Hebrew. I take it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=69675.0,69676.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: He didn't, he did not speak Hebrew, but he had a real love for Israel. During the '67 War, I knew that I wanted to go to Israel. I said to my father, \"They need volunteers.\" He says, \"Now is not when they need volunteers.\" He says, \"You educate yourself and make a positive contribution to Israel in any way you want. At a time when you know something, and you're able to really contribute to the country.\" I was in high school at the time.\n\nI went to Israel in 1969, during the summer on the YU tour. My father was very excited and encouraging for me to go. That was unfortunately the summer that he passed away. I think, if I would have had time, especially, after that summer, to talk to him about my experiences there, I, perhaps, could have learned more.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=69676.0,69738.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: He never received any letter from anybody in Israel?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=69738.0,69741.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: I have never seen anything. There are nothing in any records about that. At the time, Israel wasn't even in its infancy. It wasn't. I don't know what they had in the way of letters of thanks, things like that. I think that people came there as volunteers. They understood that they had something to do. I don't even know anything about follow-up.\n\nI would have thought that, if he would have gone there for the establishment of the Ministry of Justice, that there might have been follow-up needs. Maybe that was done by other emissaries. There might have been correspondence, but we have none of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=69741.0,69789.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: How did he traveled to Israel, Palestine?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=69789.0,69792.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: I believe, that they traveled by boat, but I don't know that as a matter of fact.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=69792.0,69800.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: He never came back after?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=69800.0,69806.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: We did come back. We came back in 1960. It was the year that my grandfather Sieg Bendheim passed away. He died in March. My grandmother wanted all of us to come to Israel, including my grandmother. My grandmother, and my mother and father and I went to Israel in 1960. That was also a very formative trip for me during the summer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=69806.0,69836.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: You were seven-eight years old?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=69836.0,69838.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: I was nine-years-old. Again, I had no idea whether during that time that they were there, my father spoke to people to see how the institution had developed. There was a strong feeling for Israel, and a positive feeling to go there, at a time when Israel was still considered a fairly dangerous place to go. I remember standing next to the King David on that fence and looking over.\n\nI remember my grandmother saying to me, \"When you say \" VeTechezena eineinu Beshuvcha LeTzion \" (May our eyes see Your return to Zion), \"we will return.\" She said, \"We will return.\" She was a very devout woman. I remember very much those words, and whenever I say \"VeTechezena einenu\" especially, when I'm privileged to be here, I think of her.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=69838.0,69891.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: Your father didn't say to you, \"Oh, yes, I remember this when I was here 13 years ago. This looks as--\"?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=69891.0,69896.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: I wish I could tell you that he did. He just didn't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=69896.0,69902.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: It was like a fresh trip, and you were coming for the--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=69902.0,69903.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: We were coming, it was a fresh trip, I don't believe that they were there in any of the intervening years. He had a part to play. Just like with really everything else that my father did, he was very, very quiet and unassuming, and did not attract attention to himself. That was just who he was.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=69903.0,69933.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: How did your mother subsequently describe him, or did she, his contribution in this area?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=69933.0,69943.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: I think that she was extremely proud of my father for many reasons. For his becoming Orthodox. He read the Soncino Talmud at the time to really understand and learn what it meant to be committed to the laws and traditions of orthodoxy, and quoted from the Talmud in his judicial opinions. He was an extraordinary man. I think that she was fiercely proud of all that he had done for Israel during his life, especially, given the fact that it was not something that he was brought up with.\n\nI said to my mother, \"How different our life would have been, had we decided to go there, if my father would have been asked, and would have accepted?\" She said, \"It would have been different, it might not have necessarily been better.\" She was at peace with the decision that she made. They, of course, continued, as did our entire family, to be very supportive of Israel and its institutions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=69943.0,70012.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: Finish the biography, and how he was appointed a federal judge?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70012.0,70015.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: The process of becoming a federal judge is that you have to be confirmed by the Senate. It's a process. My father received a word from the Attorney General of the United States that he had been appointed by Eisenhower, but it was subject to confirmation. The confirmation process lasted several months, which is not unusual.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70015.0,70040.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: He had to go to testify?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70040.0,70042.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: Excuse me?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70042.0,70043.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: He had to go testify before a committee?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70043.0,70044.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: No, they just-- He didn't have to testify. There was no really Judicial Inquiry Committee. I guess, if there were concerns about his credentials, which were fairly impeccable, there would have been. Of course, Tom Dewey was right there saying, \"This is my State Commissioner of Investigation. If there's any information you need, feel free to see me.\" It went through fairly rapidly.\n\nHe loved being a federal judge, I will just tell you. He had two opportunities to go up to the US Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit, which is the circuit in the United States, it's New York circuit. He would have been the first federal judge, Orthodox judge to be on the Second Circuit Court of Appeals, that's for sure. He loved being a trial judge. He was not interested in hearing appeals.\n\nOn both occasions when he was asked, once by the Attorney General of the United States, and once by the Chief Judge in the Southern District Henry Friendly, he said to them, \"I love trying cases, I want to be a trial lawyer.\" He was not interested in prestige and status. He wanted to do what he wanted to do, and he did it. He did it with great distinction.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70044.0,70125.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: If Dewey would have won, he might have been named a Supreme Court judge?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70125.0,70127.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: If Dewey would have won, there's no question that he would have either had been potentially a cabinet member or a Supreme Court Judge, justice, no question about it. That's also the way life works. He really had a wonderfully distinguished career, and we're all very proud of him.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70127.0,70150.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: How long was he a federal judge before he died?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70150.0,70151.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: He was a federal judge for 14 and a half years before he died.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70151.0,70155.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: What else do you have in your notes that you want to tell me?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70155.0,70160.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: Just the other thing that you should know, again, just in terms of the Jewish connection, when Fiorello La Guardia was the mayor, my father was the official that he tapped to be involved in bringing the Lubavitcher Rebbe, the Alter Rebbe to this country.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70160.0,70175.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: In 1940?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70175.0,70176.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: In 1940. That was also something that my wife's grandfather Sam Kramer, who was one of the handful of people who were directly involved in bringing the Alter Rebbe to this country. My father became a friend of Sam Kramer well before Rachel and I were born. It's just an interesting historical connection. My father was just-- He was just involved Jewishly, and involved religiously. Whatever project he undertook, he just dove into it. There was no doing anything halfway for my father.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70176.0,70216.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: Yet, he would never talk about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70216.0,70218.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: Yet, he was extremely private. I think that, probably, was also the time. Now, everything is discussed, lots of things weren't discussed. Look at the people who never talk, unfortunately, about the Holocaust to their own children, who went through that trauma, kids never heard about it. I just think that there was less of that discussion between parents and children, that's what I have to surmise. What an opportunity it would have been for us to really know more about the specifics of what he did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70218.0,70253.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: He also wanted you to help contribute, because he said to you during the Six-Day War, \"You do it when you have a lot to contribute. Not just now as a volunteer.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70253.0,70261.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: Yes, he wanted us to continue to be involved, he didn't want to dampen my enthusiasm, but he certainly wouldn't have let his 15-year-old son go to Israel at that time. Then, when this opportunity came in 1969, when the country was still really fresh from the war, he didn't give a concern about the danger. It wasn't that he wasn't concerned, but the enthusiasm that he exhibited from my going, certainly trumped any concerns that he, at least, verbalized about my going.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70261.0,70298.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: You knew at the time, his career-- like the Palestine Fund?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70298.0,70302.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: I really didn't. It was really information that I spoke to my mother about after my father died.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70302.0,70310.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: How did it hit you then when you found out?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70310.0,70312.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: I wasn't surprised. I was very, very proud, and I was also very sad, because like with many things, there was so much I would have loved to have spoken to my father about. I didn't have the chance, I didn't have the time, but I feel that spark. I feel that, that spark and manifestation that was within him, was within his children. That's part of the reason. Of course, also the Zionist feelings of Rachel's family, that's why we're here. That's why we have a place--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70312.0,70352.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: An apartment here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70352.0,70353.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: An apartment here. That's why we're involved in a number of projects here on an ongoing basis, because we really feel that this is the continuation of a tradition.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70353.0,70362.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: You taught your kids about your father's involvement?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70362.0,70365.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: They all know about it as much as we know. Of course, they're all very, very proud to be part of that tradition. Our children love Israel as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70365.0,70377.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: What else do you have on this?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70377.0,70378.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: I think I've really given you all of it. It was just the chronology that I wanted to share with you, just so that I didn't get out of order in terms of things. I think--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70378.0,70391.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: What didn't I ask you that I should have asked you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70391.0,70395.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: I think you really covered 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Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70417.0,70418.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: There was good reason for Dewey not to win.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70418.0,70422.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: [chuckles] Yes. We don't know, we don't know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70422.0,70427.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Faye: Is your mother still alive?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70427.0,70428.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70428.0,70430.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eitan: Does he have pictures?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70430.0,70431.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: Do you have any pictures? Pictures of your father?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70431.0,70433.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rachel: Of your dad.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70433.0,70435.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: I didn't even think about this -to say 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We just digitized that piece of it. There may be something else that somebody else has in your family, we'll have to check with Jeffrey.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70465.0,70478.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: I don't know with Jeffrey.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70478.0,70479.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rachel: It was just amazing, the panorama [chuckles] of Jerusalem was like, \"What?\" That's amazing to see.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70479.0,70486.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: That would be a wonderful thing to have, to see.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70486.0,70488.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rachel: I meant to give it to Eric, but I have it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70488.0,70491.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: Yes, we have it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70491.0,70491.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: Based on the whole--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70491.0,70492.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rachel: I can just send that to you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70492.0,70493.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: She can just send that to you, for sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70493.0,70495.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: We'll have it in the archives, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70495.0,70496.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: Yes, absolutely. I wish I could tell you more. I wish I could tell you that I had direct discussion about this with my father, but I didn't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70496.0,70508.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rachel: Johnny, we have to understand about Johnny, he would be living here if we--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70508.0,70516.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: Didn't have a life there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70516.0,70518.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rachel: If he could, maybe if he had a wife who was more like, \"Okay, sure.\" I really feel Israel is within his gut.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70518.0,70528.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: That's obvious.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70528.0,70530.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rachel: I really started to think about it, it's really your father that--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70530.0,70536.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: Osmosis gave it to you 100%. If I had a father that worked on the Palestine Fund in 19-- What I have is, my mother couldn't get into the rally at Madison Square Garden in '47. She was outside the building. To me that's really something, she was a teenager and she'd gone down to the Garden for that rally.\n\nShe said to me this week, she remembers the Partition Plan like yesterday. She said, it was Friday, she lived in Williamsburg, she said, \"People kept the radio on Shabbat.\" She gave me the name of some rav, I never heard of, but he's a big guy in Williamsburg. She said he kept his radio on that Shabbat.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70536.0,70574.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rachel: Wow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70574.0,70574.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: Well, of course. I know, it's amazing, so there it is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70574.0,70580.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: No, it's wonderful. Thank you. This is great.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70580.0,70583.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: Just a little-- [crosstalk]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70583.0,70584.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: How often do you come to Israel?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70584.0,70586.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: Two or three times a year.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70586.0,70587.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rachel: Three is pushing it. I would say, no. We go on the simcha trek. We're coming for a wedding. If there's a lot of simchas in the course of a year-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70587.0,70598.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: We could come more often.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70598.0,70599.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rachel: -we'll be here. Sometimes, we're here once a year. We try to come twice. We were here last June for Johnny's birthday, and we made reservations, unlike us because we're always last minute, for April 15th for the 70th we want to be here for it. April 15th is, guess what?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70599.0,70617.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: Tax day.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70617.0,70618.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rachel: I said to John, \"You have to imagine the 15th is on Friday, because we're leaving on the 13th. We're leaving on Sunday for Israel for the week, so we'll be here.\" We've never been here for Yom Ha'atzmaut or Yom HaZikaron.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70618.0,70631.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: Oh, it's nice, it's something to see, absolutely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70631.0,70635.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: We were never here for the sirens?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70635.0,70637.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rachel: That's Yom HaShoah, that's right after Pesach. We've never been here for Yom Ha'atzmaut.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70637.0,70642.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: That's right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70642.0,70642.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rachel: I've never been here. You may have been here?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70642.0,70644.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: I've never been here with--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70644.0,70645.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rachel: In New York in the 1960s.\n\n[laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70645.0,70647.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: No. Never. That was it, that was the only trip.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70647.0,70651.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rachel: It is. Not before as well, he can tell you the truth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70651.0,70653.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: Right, exactly. Okay, beseder that's very good, we did good. See, it is chaval (too bad) but that's--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70653.0,70661.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: It is chaval , it's just--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70661.0,70663.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: It's something of piece and it--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70663.0,70663.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: It's a small piece and it's also for people who were born in America. It's not Europeans that came here after the war and then were drawn, this is a red-blooded American, born in this country.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70663.0,70685.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rachel: Not a redneck though.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70685.0,70687.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: Did he describe to you what it was like growing up on Lower East Side in 1905 to 19--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70687.0,70692.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: He actually said one story, he was a gifted pianist. In fact, my parents met playing piano at a dinner party.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70692.0,70703.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rachel: You have two Steinways, you can have one of them. [chuckles]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70703.0,70706.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: Yes. [chuckles] They each came with another date. My mother had been asked to play piano for these people, they were both psychiatrists, it was back when I remember. She started playing, and my father saw her and started listening to her. He moved away from wherever his date was, and started playing the upper register of the same piano. He introduced himself to her. I don't know, they went out on a date, it was a very, very romantic courtship at the time. They were a wonderful couple.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70706.0,70745.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: He was irreligious, on Lower East Side, that was an exception. In other words, most families--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70745.0,70751.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rachel: Right. [crosstalk]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70751.0,70752.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: -it was very frum.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70752.0,70752.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: He was not religious and I think life was hard, and everyone worked hard. He had three siblings, all of whom were outstanding. He had a sister, they were all distinguished academically, they were all phi beta kappa from college in their junior year.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70752.0,70770.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rachel: No pressure on this family.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70770.0,70772.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: My aunt was a chair professor of medieval literature at NYU. My uncle was a professor of dentistry at Columbia, and also had a private practice. My other uncle, Herbert Herlands, who practiced law with my father here at Herlands and Herlands for a short while in the 1940s, moved to California and became a Superior Court judge in Orange County in Santa Ana, so they were bi-coastal Judge Herlands'. They were all really outstanding. They worked hard, but they were not-- [crosstalk]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70772.0,70805.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rachel: -were not Jewishly [inaudible","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70805.0,70807.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"] his father.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70807.0,70807.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: None of them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70807.0,70808.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: Zionistically, nothing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70808.0,70809.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/204","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: Nothing. Zero, zero.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70809.0,70812.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: When you found out, when they found out that your father had worked for the Palestine Fund?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70812.0,70818.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: It wasn't their thing. They were involved in their careers. They were not Jewish. They were not involved in Jewish organizational communal work at all. It was only dad. It was only dad.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70818.0,70830.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rachel: It was cerebral, it was --","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70830.0,70832.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: It was cerebral. It was also for my father, but it was also-- The family that he had married into, you can't do those things, I think, without the support of your spouse and family. I don't know if my father was close to my uncle, whether they spoke at any time, Charlie Bendheim and my father. My father was close to Ludwig Jesselson and Max Stern also. Those are all part of one group of philanthropists, and they were very close to my father.\n\nLudi was a relative, with the Bendheims, but Max and my father, and my parents were extremely close. Extremely close. We went away together for Pesach to the Brunswick Hotel in New Jersey. We had Pesach together, years and years and years with the Stern family. There was a lot of support for my father being involved in those kinds of institutions, but he was a brilliant man.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70832.0,70896.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: Did you have symbols of Israel in your house growing up?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70896.0,70902.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: I can't say that we did. I can't say that we did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70902.0,70909.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: Yes, you know something? I have to tell you. I went to Maple Lake Camp, it was a long time ago.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70909.0,70916.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: I remember Camp Maple.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70916.0,70916.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: The one thing about Israel during the summer was, there was a troupe of dancers, kids who came from Israel to sing Israeli songs. Everyone was bored. Everyone laughed, everyone was bored. It was so not nice the way the kids acted. This was 1960 to 1965. 1967 something happened, obviously, that changed everything. Until then, Israel was just not something. I'm really trying to think in MDS. How much discussion of Israel was there? I just don't-- Were you at MDS too?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70916.0,70951.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rachel: Yes, we were together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70951.0,70953.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: We went through the system together. There was just the concept of what it is to be Tzioni. To talk about the return to Eretz Yisrael. What it meant to think about it, as it to long for being there. Did any of that come through? No, I don't remember it, if it did. Nothing. Israel Independence Day, until we started to have marches, which was really only after '67 also. There were no marches for Israel before, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70953.0,70985.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rachel: No, there were, because I-- There's a picture of me in eighth grade marching with the Israel, when it was on Riverside Drive. There were.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70985.0,70993.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: Oh, okay. Maybe-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70993.0,70994.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rachel: Yes. It was on Riverside Drive, it wasn't on Fifth Avenue.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70994.0,70996.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: It wasn't on Fifth Avenue.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70996.0,70997.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rachel: Yes. I don't know the-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70997.0,70998.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: It was just a different-- It was the event that was the most transformative event in all of our lives.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=70998.0,71010.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: Yes. Do you think, had you known about your father's involvement when you were younger than the Six-Day War, it would have impacted you, where you would have felt more Zionistic?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=71010.0,71019.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: It might have. If it wouldn't have been for Rachel, and falling in love with her, I might have really just come here. Even when I went in 1960, it was such an amazing trip. I remember so many things about that trip very, very much influenced by Grandma Bendheim. She spent time with me there. We davened with her in the morning. She davened three times a day.\n\nI'd never said mincha really. It wasn't something we did in MDS either. She davened mincha, b'zman. She was a very, very big influence on all of her grandchildren. Bendheims too will tell you that. Jackie, Aviva, Debbie, Dov, Judy, they'll all tell you, she was an extraordinary influence on our lives. I loved it here. When I came in 1969, I just fell in love with everything about this place, and I saw myself here.\n\nI could see myself fighting for the country, being involved in the country, doing everything. Then, you come back and you go to school, you go to college, and you have the fortune to meet the woman of your dreams.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=71019.0,71098.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rachel: You worked in order to make a living.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=71098.0,71100.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/225","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: I worked and everything else.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=71100.0,71101.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: Now that you're so involved, it must be an interesting thing in your head to say to yourself, \"Yes, my father was a silent partner in the creation of this state. I didn't know about. He wasn't a braggart, so I never knew.\" Yet, all that you have now, personal involvement, your father was doing when he was younger, and then you didn't know about that he was a silent partner to the establishment of the state.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=71101.0,71131.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: There were so many silent partners, and so many unsung heroes, and he was happy to be an unsung hero. All of the stones leading up to the mizbeach (alter), they're all not hewn. They're all different sizes, right? That's what it says. They're all just not cut the same way, and they're all next to each other, and together they create the foundation for the mizbeach.\n\nI feel that way about my father and all of these other people. They all were these unhewn, these cut stones, each one of them with their own edges that made them special. They weren't all smooth. They didn't all look at the world the same way. They had different perspectives. My father was the perspective of someone who grew up not religious.\n\nLooking at this now, and what needed to be done, how he could influence. Other people came to it from different points of view, and together they worked shoulder-to-shoulder to create this. To be part of that is just incredible. Just incredible. 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Am I off-camera, or am I still on?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=71202.0,71212.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/230","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eitan Wetzler: No, we're still on. [crosstalk]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=71212.0,71212.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/231","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: You're still on. This is good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=71212.0,71215.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/232","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: Just to tell you, I'm involved in a couple of small foundations. This has nothing to do with my father, but it does have something to do. One of the things that we do is, we refurbish recreational facilities on military bases. We do it quietly, because the people whose names are there, are no longer alive. We work closely with the FIDF, and we identify bases.\n\nSome of them were bases that had involvement from my brother-in-law, Binny Shudofsky, Binny Shalev, and others that need facilities, recreational facilities. Running space, treadmills, exercise machines. We've even refurbished recreational space on a submarine, and we provide the funds for those recreational facilities. There's a small plaque that goes on it with the name, in memory of those people, with the name of the foundation called the Stanger Foundation.\n\nThat's it. No one sees it. No one from UJA goes to those places. They're inside. Several of them are inside a mountain. I've been there. You just go for the dedication, and every time I do that, I think of my father, because I think that that's just-- I don't know if he could imagine recreational bases, recreational facilities that are military bases, but everyone chooses their own thing.\n\nThis was something that I wanted to do, and it's something that we continue to be involved in now, and also involved in in a variety of Mechina programs for wayward youth. They get trained to get ready for pre-army training, and other things. I attribute all of that-- Didn't come from me. Who am I? It came from things that we saw in our family, quiet philanthropy, and it's not even my money, so it's not even my philanthropy.\n\nIt's someone gave me this incredible z'chut to spend their money. We continue to be involved, and I'm going to do that until I take my last breath. My goal is to refurbish every military facility in the country. I don't know if I'll be able to do it, but that's the goal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=71215.0,71359.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/233","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rachel: And where are you after you've taken your last breath?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=71359.0,71360.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/234","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: You're going to do it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=71360.0,71362.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/235","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rachel: Where are you going to be?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=71362.0,71363.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/236","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: What?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=71363.0,72564.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/237","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rachel: In Israel.\n\n[laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=72564.0,74964.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/238","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: In Israel.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=74964.0,74967.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/239","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rachel: We bought graves.\n\n[laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=74967.0,74969.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/240","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: Eretz Ha'Chaim, here we come.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=74969.0,74972.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/241","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rachel: Which actually are worth something, because now they're tunneling down.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=74972.0,74975.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/242","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: Oh, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=74975.0,74976.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/243","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rachel: We might sell ours . [laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=74976.0,74979.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/244","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: I don't want to be in Cyprus Hills on the Jackie Robinson Parkway and Interboro. That's where everyone else is. I belong off of Route 3.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=74979.0,74990.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/245","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rachel: We've had a look here then down here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=74990.0,74991.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/246","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: I belong in the Beit Shemesh. 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Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=74994.0,74999.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/248","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rachel: Oh, at least you'll visit us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=74999.0,75000.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/249","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jonathan: Yes, someone will visit us.\n\n[laughter]\n\nThat's right. No pressure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=75000.0,75003.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/250","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: Very good. Anyway, thank you, Jonathan. Very good. Very good. You've-- Very good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=75003.0,75009.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/251","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eitan: That's it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=75009.0,75010.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/252","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elli: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=75010.0,75011.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48827/annotation/253","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[END OF AUDIO]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=75011.0,3010.64"}]},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48828","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Jonathan Herlands - English transcript for captions  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Herlands,\nH-E-R-L-A-N-D-S.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=7.0,13.02"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48828/annotation/256","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"-This is an interview about your father-\n-Correct.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=15.44,18.24"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48828/annotation/257","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"-who was another volunteer,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=18.37,24.6"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48828/annotation/258","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"shall we say, from America\nwho helped build this country.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=24.75,28.42"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48828/annotation/259","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That is correct.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=28.42,29.33"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48828/annotation/260","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Let's start first just\na straight biography.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=29.46,32.4"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48828/annotation/261","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I see on your notes, he was born in 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We don't know, we don't know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=2023.8,2025.6"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48828/annotation/827","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"-Is your mother still alive?\n-No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=2026.91,2029.17"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48828/annotation/828","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Does he have 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dad.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=2032.88,2034.77"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48828/annotation/831","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"-I didn't even think about this\n-to say something.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=2034.95,2036.73"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48828/annotation/832","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"-We don't have pictures here.\n-It's back in New 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Never.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=2248.37,2249.26"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48828/annotation/914","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That was it, that was the only trip.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=2249.26,2250.97"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48828/annotation/915","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It 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me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=2927.62,2929.06"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48828/annotation/1124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Who am I?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=2929.06,2929.93"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48828/annotation/1125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It came from things that we saw\nin our family, quiet philanthropy,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=2930.11,2936.44"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48828/annotation/1126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and it's not even my money,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=2936.93,2938.53"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48828/annotation/1127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"so it's not even my philanthropy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=2938.53,2939.97"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48828/annotation/1128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's someone gave me this incredible\nz'chut to spend their money.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=2940.4,2944.17"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48828/annotation/1129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We continue to be involved,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=2946.0,2948.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48828/annotation/1130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and I'm going to do that\nuntil I take my last breath.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=2948.22,2951.22"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48828/annotation/1131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"My goal is to refurbish\nevery military facility in the 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breath?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=2958.6,2960.84"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48828/annotation/1134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"-You're going to do it.\n-Where are you going to be?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=2960.84,2962.53"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48828/annotation/1135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=2962.53,2963.62"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48828/annotation/1136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"-In Israel.\n-In Israel. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=2963.71,2965.53"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48828/annotation/1137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We bought graves.\n[laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=2965.73,2969.02"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48828/annotation/1138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eretz Ha'Chaim, here we come.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=2969.2,2971.48"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48828/annotation/1139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Which actually are worth something,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=2971.66,2973.93"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48828/annotation/1140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because now they're tunneling down.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=2973.93,2975.6"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48828/annotation/1141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"-Oh, yes.\n-We might sell 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Interboro.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=2980.04,2985.42"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48828/annotation/1144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's where everyone else is.\nI belong off of Route 3.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=2985.62,2990.33"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48828/annotation/1145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We've had a look here then down here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=2990.42,2991.6"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48828/annotation/1146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I belong in the Beit Shemesh.\nThat's where I belong for after.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=2991.6,2994.06"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48828/annotation/1147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"My mother's parents are in that 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us.\n[laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=3000.06,3002.26"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48828/annotation/1150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"-That's right.\n-No pressure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=3002.26,3003.26"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48828/annotation/1151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Very good. Anyway, thank you, Jonathan.\nVery good. Very good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=3003.26,3005.48"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48828/annotation/1152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You've-- Very good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=3005.48,3008.2"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48828/annotation/1153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"-That's it?\n-Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419#t=3008.91,3011.53"}]},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48828","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2147/collection_resources/83637/file/205419/transcript/48828/annotation/1154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/048/828/original/Jonathan_Herlands_-_Full_interview_about_William_Herlands_%28father%29.vtt?1692024791","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/048/828/original/Jonathan_Herlands_-_Full_interview_about_William_Herlands_%28father%29.vtt?1692024791"}]}]}]}