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גבוהים?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517#t=2166.08,2167.96"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517/transcript/42888/annotation/523","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אני חשבתי\nעל לימודים בירושלים.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517#t=2169.88,2172.28"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517/transcript/42888/annotation/524","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לימודים בירושלים, לימודי משפטים.\nזה היה בראש 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בירושלים?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517#t=2237.68,2240.32"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517/transcript/42888/annotation/540","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא זוכר.\n-לא זוכר.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517#t=2240.4,2242.12"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517/transcript/42888/annotation/541","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אני יודע,\nאני הייתי בקשר ישיר עם אליהו 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להצטרף\".","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517#t=2264.12,2265.88"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517/transcript/42888/annotation/548","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ואילו פעילויות אתה מתחיל,\nבמסגרת אצ\"ל, לבצע?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517#t=2266.64,2271.28"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517/transcript/42888/annotation/549","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אף 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מודיעין?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517#t=2291.24,2293.56"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517/transcript/42888/annotation/557","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מידע על מטרות, על אנשים,\nעל אובייקטים?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517#t=2293.8,2296.8"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517/transcript/42888/annotation/558","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מה שהיה 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44'.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517#t=2309.28,2312.76"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517/transcript/42888/annotation/563","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"שמונה באוגוסט 44'.\nזאת אומרת, זה ממש","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517#t=2313.0,2316.16"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517/transcript/42888/annotation/564","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"בתחילת הפעילות האינטנסיבית של אצ\"ל.\n-זה כבר היה","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517#t=2316.24,2319.64"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517/transcript/42888/annotation/565","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אחרי פיצוץ הבולשת.\n-הבולשת. הפיצוץ הראשון?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517#t=2319.72,2322.72"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517/transcript/42888/annotation/566","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"וגם 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ודאי...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517#t=3893.16,3894.04"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517/transcript/42888/annotation/984","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"קיבלתם את הכול...\n-כן.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517#t=3894.12,3895.28"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517/transcript/42888/annotation/985","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"בצורה מסודרת.\n-לא מהם, זה 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באמצעות...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517#t=3961.44,3966.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517/transcript/42888/annotation/1002","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"על ידי ישיבתכם וניסיונות הבריחה?\nאתם תורמים למאבק הזה בדרך 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50'.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517#t=4786.12,4787.44"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517/transcript/42888/annotation/1235","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"זאת אומרת, היית ביחידת חיל רגלים...\n-כן.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517#t=4787.72,4790.16"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517/transcript/42888/annotation/1236","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"עדיין, מבחינה פורמלית,\nהיית כבר משפטן?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517#t=4790.24,4794.24"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517/transcript/42888/annotation/1237","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כבר קיבלת את ה...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517#t=4794.32,4795.64"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517/transcript/42888/annotation/1238","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517#t=4795.72,4796.72"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517/transcript/42888/annotation/1239","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא, עדיין לא היית 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לפרקליטות?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517#t=4817.76,4819.36"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517/transcript/42888/annotation/1248","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אני חושב 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זוכר.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517#t=6570.36,6571.4"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517/transcript/42888/annotation/1710","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא זוכר,\nאבל אני זוכר את הפרשה.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517#t=6571.48,6573.36"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517/transcript/42888/annotation/1711","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"זוכר את הפרשה.\n-זה יכול להיות...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517#t=6573.44,6574.6"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517/transcript/42888/annotation/1712","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לוינסון, ברור,\nאני הכרתי גם את לוינסון","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517#t=6574.68,6577.2"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517/transcript/42888/annotation/1713","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לפני שהוא התגלה כ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517#t=6577.28,6579.08"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517/transcript/42888/annotation/1714","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"הוה היה בוועדת שביתת הנשק.\n-נכון.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517#t=6579.48,6582.04"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517/transcript/42888/annotation/1715","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ואני זוכר ש...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517#t=6582.12,6586.04"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517/transcript/42888/annotation/1716","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"הוא נשלח למשפט וקיבל עשר שנות...\nאו משהו כזה, עשר שנים.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517#t=6586.92,6590.68"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517/transcript/42888/annotation/1717","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"עכשיו... אם זה היה בדיוק בתקופתי\nאו לא אני לא זוכר,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517#t=6591.32,6594.96"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517/transcript/42888/annotation/1718","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אבל אני זוכר את הפרשה.\n-אתה זוכר טוב את הפרשה.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517#t=6595.04,6598.28"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517/transcript/42888/annotation/1719","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מראיין 2: זו שביתת הנשק של 48'?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517#t=6599.04,6601.2"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517/transcript/42888/annotation/1720","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן, הוא היה\nבוועדת שביתת הנשק עם ירדן,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517#t=6601.28,6603.84"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517/transcript/42888/annotation/1721","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"הוא היה נציג 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היית?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517#t=6607.32,6608.4"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517/transcript/42888/annotation/1724","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא.\n-אבל אתה הכרת אותו...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517#t=6608.48,6611.72"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517/transcript/42888/annotation/1725","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"הכרתי אותו מהעבודה,\nכן, 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אמרת.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517#t=6616.92,6621.24"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517/transcript/42888/annotation/1728","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן.\n-פונים אליך ומציעים לך","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517#t=6621.32,6624.04"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517/transcript/42888/annotation/1729","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"את התפקיד של היועץ המשפטי לממשלה.\n-כן.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517#t=6624.12,6627.32"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517/transcript/42888/annotation/1730","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"זה היה כיוון טבעי,\nהתפתחות טבעית,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517#t=6627.4,6631.16"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517/transcript/42888/annotation/1731","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"או שאתה... היו לך מחשבות\nלעבור לכיוונים אחרים?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517#t=6631.24,6636.88"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517/transcript/42888/annotation/1732","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא, כבר לפני זה הציעו לי\nלהיות מנהל בתי המשפט,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517#t=6637.0,6640.72"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517/transcript/42888/annotation/1733","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ואז יצחק רבין,\nיש לי את הפתק הזה עד 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כי...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517#t=6661.4,6663.72"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517/transcript/42888/annotation/1738","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"זהו, איך אתה חי במין...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517#t=6663.8,6667.44"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517/transcript/42888/annotation/1739","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אומנם אלה לא גופים\nשנוגדים אחד את 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נגד,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517#t=7756.96,7758.8"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517/transcript/42888/annotation/2054","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אבל לא קורה שהפורום של השופטים\nמתכנס והוא אומר, \"אני רוצה את זה\".","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517#t=7758.88,7764.36"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89592/file/185517/transcript/42888/annotation/2055","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז אתה הופתעת 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