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נסע עם חבר להביא להם את הכסף. ויש שמה סיפור די מעניין על זה. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=219.06,255.16"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1421","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא, זה מעניין. אם את יכולה לספר אותו. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=255.16,259.18"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1422","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן בסדר. \n\nפלג 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לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=327.24,329.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1435","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"בן כמה הוא היה כשזה קרה? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=329.0,331.02"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1436","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"הוא היה בן אולי עשרים, פחות עוד מפני שאחר כך שלחו אותו למשפחה, ניסו לברוח אבל אי אפשר היה לברוח. אז... הם היו ארבעה אחים יגלומים. כן? אז את כולם שלחו למקום אחר. והוא סיפר לנו הרבה על זה שבבית החזיקו למעלה באיזה מקום חסוי ככה, תה ואוכל ודברים כאלה. הם לא ידעו מה יהיה איתם ושלחו גם אוכל למשפחה שהייתה ברוסיה והילדים האלה, הגבורה של הילדים שהם לא פחדו לנסוע עם זה ברכבת עם רוסים. נסעו במקום יום אחד ארבעה חמישה ימים וככה הם ניצלו. ניצלו, חלק, זאת אומרת ארבעה אחים, חלק נסע למשפחה אחת, חלק למשפחה שנייה וככה הם ניצלו ונשארו בחיים, אבל זה לא החזיק הרבה זמן מפני שהם היו גם צריכים ללמוד, אז אחד שלחו לבריסל בלגיה ללמוד שמה. אחת לבוקרשט זה היה. אח אחד הגיע לבוקרשט עם עסקים אז הם החזיקו אותו בבית שהוא ימשיך ללמוד. הרביעי היה יותר מדי צעיר. בעלי תפסו בגבול, כאשר עוברים מאוקראינה לרוסיה ורצו להרוג אותו. אז אחד האוקראינים אמר, מה אתם רוצים להרוג אותו, זה ילד קטן. כי הוא היה קטן ורזה והיה נראה כמו ילד קטן. מה אתם רוצים, בשביל מה אתם רוצים להרוג אותו? תנו לו ללכת. אז הוא עבר בחזרה את הנהר איפה שעזרו לו לעבור לשם ולקחו אותו בחזרה, אבל היהודים ידעו שהוא חוזר אז הם חיכו לו ושוב לקחו אותו לבית יהודי והחזיקו אותו שם עד שיום אחד הוא ברח משם ואז הוא הגיע לדונצק ובדונצק האח הגדול, הבכור שלו היה שם כבר. הצליח לפתוח עסק ובעלי שהיה השלישי במשפחה, כי הם היו ארבעה אחים אמרתי, לקח אותו אליו והוא חי שם עד פרוץ המלחמה השנייה. למה הוא ברח? \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=331.02,513.05"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1437","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"שמה התחילה המלחמה. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=513.05,515.03"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1438","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן, בדונצק זה היו פצצות הראשונות. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=515.03,517.24"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1439","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=517.24,519.17"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1440","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"העסק גדל, גדל והיה מאוד חשוב. יום אחד אמרו לו שגנבו. גם כן הם הביאו יבוא של תה ושל קפה ושל דברים שאפשר היה להביא ואז מישהו אמר לו שגנבו אצלם במחסן. אז הוא הלך למשטרה ובמשטרה אמרו לו, אדון יגלום, אתה לא מבין מה שהולך עכשיו? תראה הנאצים כבר כמעט כאן, מה אתה רוצה להתלונן עכשיו? למי אתה רוצה להתלונן? אני מציע לך לעזוב. אז הוא מהמשטרה הלך הביתה. הוא קרא למנהל הבית חרושת שם ומי שהיה אחראי למחסן, מחסנים אני יודעת מה. אז אמרו לו... אז הוא אמר לאחראי שלו מנהל, אני מחר עוזב לפלסטינה, אתם תשלחו לי הכל לשם. כי הוא בינתיים כבר היה בארץ וקנה דירה כאן ב-35. הוא ידע שבונים את זה כבר, אבל הוא רצה שהכל יבוא לשמה. הבטיחו לו שיישלחו לו ובאמת שלחו לו, הכל הגיע. מה שהוא מצא זה היה כאן בתל אביב ב-35. הוא מצא בבית רק טלפון על הריצפה, הרהיטים עוד לא היו, שום דבר לא היה אבל הטלפון היה. נו לאט לאט הוא הסתדר. הוא ריהט את זה. לאט לאט באו כל הדברים מדונציק לתל אביב והתחילו חיים נורמלים. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=519.17,627.22"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1441","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז רגע, כדי שיהיה לי את התמונה בראש, סיפרת עכשיו על יגלום אבל אני רוצה, נגיע אליו. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=627.22,633.13"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1442","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אתה רוצה משם. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=633.13,635.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1443","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"זה 1935. בואי נחזור רגע, אני רוצה לשמוע על ההורים שלך, את השמות שלהם, מה השורשים שלהם ומה הם עשו? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=635.0,643.05"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1444","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אבא ואימא למדו באודסה פרמצבטיקה, כן? אז שניהם היו ממקצוע כבר פרמצבטיקה. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=643.05,654.12"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1445","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מה שמו של אביך? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=654.12,655.22"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1446","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"שמואל חורש. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=655.22,657.12"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1447","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"שמואל חורש? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=657.12,658.23"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1448","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן ואימא פניה חורש. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=658.23,661.04"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1449","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ומאיזה, מה השורשים של המשפחה של אימא? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=661.04,666.14"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1450","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"גם כן מבסרביה באו, שם המשפחה היה נוסינקיס. נוסינקיס זה היה המשפחה אבל הם לא היו פעילים, הם היו מאוד שקטים ככה בלי פעילות. אימא למשל, כן הייתה ציונית, היא הייתה מעורבת בקרן קיימת. היא הייתה אחראית לנשף של קרן קיימת. האבא לאט לאט עבר גם כן לציונות ואחרי שהוא בחר את הבית מרקחת הציעו לו הרומנים, זה כבר היה רומניה אחר כך, שהוא יהיה מנהל בנק. ואז הוא התחיל קריירה אחרת והגוים מאוד מאוד התחשבו איתו. האמינו לו ונתנו לו כל מיני תפקידים לעשות והוא היה איש מאוד פעיל. הוא פיתח את הבנק בסרביה בכל בסרביה. אז האמינו לו עד כדי כך שעשו אותו מנהל כללי של בנק בסרביה בכל בסרביה, אבל הוא המשיך את החיים היהודים. הנה אמרתי קודם שהוא ואימא נסעו כל שנה לארץ ישראל. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=666.14,742.01"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1451","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן, זה אנחנו מדברים על תקופה של אחרי מלחמת העולם הראשונה. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=742.01,745.18"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1452","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=745.18,747.05"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1453","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ובמלחמה הוא גוייס? \n\nרעיה 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יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=791.1,792.11"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1460","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כאן יש תמונות מהבית ספר שלי, הנה כאן במדים אתה רואה? \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=792.11,796.23"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1461","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אני רוצה רגע לצלם את זה שנייה אחת. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=796.23,799.04"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1462","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"יש כאן במדים, כאן הוא במדים, מדים רומניים כבר. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=799.04,802.09"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1463","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. \n\nרעיה 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אותי לצהריים וסבא שלי, אז אני אומרת, איך אתה הגעת לסבא שלי? הוא אמר, אנחנו בנינו יחד את בית אבות. הם היו, גם היהודי הזה היה מבסרביה והם היו בידידות ובתמונה היה גם מנכ\"ל שלהם של העסק. אז היו כבר יהודים נסעו להיות יחד. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=817.12,920.23"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1467","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"הם כבר היו נשואים? \n\nרעיה 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יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=984.15,985.22"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1484","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז... \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=985.22,986.24"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1485","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"וזה בבסרביה אבל. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=986.24,989.02"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1486","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן כן בסרביה כן. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=989.02,989.02"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1487","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אוקיי. אז עכשיו... \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=989.02,990.15"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1488","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אבל גדלתי בצ'רנוביץ', למה? כי בבסרביה כבר נסעו לעיר הגדולה צ'רנוביץ' ושמה היו חיים מאוד ציוניים. כל הציונים הגדולים היו נותנים לנו הרצאות, באים לבקר, הייתה קהילה גדולה של 80,000 יהודים. וככה אני גם הכרתי את המנהיגים, אני זוכרת וייצמן היה, ז'בוטינסקי היה. אני שמעתי את ז'בוטינסקי נואם אז באתי הביתה ואמרתי, שמעתי נאום יוצא מהכלל מאיש מאוד מכוער. ז'בוטינסקי היה מכוער, הוא היה כמו קוף קצת. טוב, אבל, זה לא צריכים להגיד אבל ככה זה היה. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=990.15,1035.01"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1489","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז רגע, זה כבר שהיית יותר בוגרת. בתור אדם \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1035.01,1038.19"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1490","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1038.19,1038.19"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1491","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מה התמונה, הזיכרון הכי קדום שלך? איזה תמונה יש לך הכי הראשונה? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1038.19,1044.09"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1492","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"של המשפחה? \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1044.09,1045.22"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1493","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"בכלל, בחיים, כאדם. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1045.22,1047.16"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1494","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כאדם, חיים די טובים ברומניה, \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1047.16,1053.06"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1495","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא אני אומר תמונה, זיכרון ילדות ראשון, תמונה ראשונה. שיש לך. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1053.06,1058.18"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1496","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"בית יפה, מקום יפה בקהילה. הקהילה, ההורים הולכים, היו הולכים לבית כנסת אז היו מכבדים אותם עם מקום יפה וכך הלאה. והחיים, לא הייתה אנטישמיות. לגמרי לא, אני כילדה שהלכתי לבית ספר התחלתי גם ללכת ביום ראשון לאוניברסיטה אז הרגשתי שיש אנטישמיות, כי אמרו לי, אני התיישבתי בשורה ראשונה אז בא סטודנט רומני ואמר ז'ידאויקה. ז'ידאויקה זה מילה מכוערת ליהודיה, תלכי ותשבי בספסל האחרון. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1058.18,1102.14"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1497","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אבל זה כבר ב-30 ומשהו \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1102.14,1104.08"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1498","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"זה היה ב... \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1104.08,1106.07"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1499","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"גיל 15, 16 מתי הולכים ל... זה גימנסיה או אוניברסיטה? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1106.07,1109.17"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1500","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא, זה היום הראשון באוניברסיטה קרה לי. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1109.17,1112.1"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1501","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"זה כבר אוניברסיטה. \n\nרעיה 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יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1113.19,1114.13"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1504","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"בבית ספר גם כן הייתי תלמידה טובה, התחשבו איתי והיו לי ציונים טובים וזה לא היה מקרה של אחותי ז\"ל. היא לא הצליחה כל כך. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1114.13,1128.23"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1505","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"הבית ספר הראשון הוא יהודי? \n\nרעיה 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לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1160.17,1163.06"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1511","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"רגע, לפני זה, \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1163.06,1163.06"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1512","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. \n\nפלג 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לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1171.03,1182.06"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1515","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1182.06,1182.06"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1516","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"החזיקו אותנו את הבנות, לא נתנו לנו להרגיש שום מצב קשה, שום דבר לא. רק מיום הראשון שהגעתי לאוניברסיטה הבנתי שאני יהודייה. \n\nפלג 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לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1201.17,1203.22"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1519","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"זה היה האוניברסיטה, זה מה שאהבת מבית הספר היסודי. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1203.22,1206.12"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1520","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. \n\nפלג 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לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1213.22,1233.22"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1523","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא בית\"ר? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1233.22,1233.22"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1524","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1233.22,1235.15"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1525","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"חירות. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1235.15,1235.15"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1526","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"חירות. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1235.15,1236.17"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1527","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"הייתה תנועה כזאת? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1236.17,1236.17"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1528","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן, כן. רק רגע, שניים היו. איך שאני שוכחת פתאום. פלג לוי :-לא נורא, אני אגיד לך שמות, אולי תזכרי. הבונים? \n\nרעיה 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יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1249.07,1249.07"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1531","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא, לא, לא, לא. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1249.07,1250.24"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1532","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"השומר הצעיר, הנוער העובד, המחנות העולים. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1250.24,1253.18"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1533","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא, הנוער העובד אני זוכרת, אבל זה לא, אני לא הייתי שייכת לשם. קדימה. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1253.18,1263.03"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1534","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"קדימה, כן. \n\nרעיה 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לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1277.04,1360.1"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1538","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן, רק אני. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1360.1,1360.1"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1539","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לפי זה היינו בתמונה. \n\nפלג 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העיר הגדולה, כן? אז שמה כבר ראיתי בתי ספר גדולים, והסטודנטים ותנועות נוער וכך הלאה. אבל, לא הייתה, אני לא יכולה להגיד שהיו לנו חיים ציוניים שלא נתנו לנו להיות, לא. אני רציתי גם קודם להגיד, זה היה... צרפתית כבר... מאוד נוח הכל וזה שהייתי שייכת למשפחה פחות או יותר עשירה וידועה, אז אני לא, לא פגשתי צרות. לא היו לי צרות. רק ביום הראשון לאוניברסיטה. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1388.06,1446.15"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1546","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז מה קורה אחרי היום הראשון באוניברסיטה, אחרי שאת מחליטה? \n\nרעיה 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הייתה עיר יהודית טובה עם חינוך ציוני. היות שאמרתי לך שכל הגדולים היו באים אלינו להרצות לפנינו. היה אולם טוינבהאלה כולם היו באים. ואז אבא וסבא, היות שסבא היה גם כן בארץ ישראל. שמה יש גם תמונה של סבא ואבא בארץ ישראל. החליטו להשפיע עלי שאני אסכים לנסוע לארץ ישראל, אבל אז היו צריכים ויזה, וזה לא קל היה לקבל. אז אבא לקח אותי לבוקרשט לקונסליה האנגלית, והיה לו קצת אדמה כאן. הוא פעם אחת בכל הנסיעות האלה, קנה בחיפה איזה חתיכת אדמה. אצל האנגלים זה היה מספיק כדי לתת ויזה. אז הסכמתי. אנחנו עשינו הסכם. אבא אמר, תסעי לשלושה חודשים, אם זה לא מוצא חן בעיניך, את יכולה לחזור. אמרתי בסדר. אבל כשהוא הביא אותי לאוניה, אני זוכרת ברומניה בקונסטנצה, עדיין בכיתי, אני רוצה הביתה, מה אתה עושה לי? למה אתה שולח אותי לאיזה מקום שאני לא מכירה את אף אחד? זה לא עזר לי. אבא שלח אותי, עם ההסכם הזה, שאחרי שלושה חודשים אני יכולה לחזור, אם אני לא מרוצה. אני הגעתי ב-3 לאפריל, 1900. 1900... \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1471.18,1593.104"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1552","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1593.104,1597.04"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1553","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא, לא, 40 כבר הייתי כאן. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1597.04,1599.1039"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1554","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1599.1039,1600.22"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1555","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"משהו כזה, רגע, אני קצת מתחילה לשכוח. לא, הוא הביא אותי לאוניה, קונסטנצה, אוניה גדולה, הכי גדולה, יפה, ושמה הייתה עוד בחורה איתי גם כן ישראלית, ואנחנו היינו לבד בקבינה. שזה היה לוקסוס שבלוקסוס, כן? שתי בנות לבד במחלקה אחת. הוא שלח אותי בעצם למכרים שלהם, של ההורים שלי, שגם הם היו באים לבקר ברומניה. אז, זה היה כאילו החלפה כזו. טוב, אני הייתי קצת יותר שקטה, כי ידעתי שיש משפחה שתקבל אותי. באתי הנה, למחרת, מתל אביב נסעתי לירושלים, להירשם באוניברסיטה, זה היה 3 באפריל, 1900... \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1600.22,1661.09"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1556","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"תראי, אני אגיד לך, את אומרת שאבא, כשרצית לצאת, כשיחיאל ביקש ממך לצאת לארץ, הוא אמר את המשפט, התחילה מלחמה. אז זה חייב להיות אחרי ספטמבר 39'. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1661.09,1672.23"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1557","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"בדיוק, היה אחרי ספטמבר. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1672.23,1672.23"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1558","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לכן זה 40', את הגעת ב-40', באפריל 40'. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1672.23,1677.06"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1559","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן, כבר הייתי כאן. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1677.06,1680.22"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1560","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"הגעת באמצע השנה, באמצע שנת 40'. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1680.22,1682.15"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1561","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן, כן, כן. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1682.15,1684.17"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1562","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אני אגיד לך אם את, כן, את הגעת ב-40, כי אם את המשפט הזה שמעת עוד רומניה, אז המלחמה התחילה \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1684.17,1693.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1563","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"בוודאי. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1693.0,1693.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1564","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ב-39'. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1693.0,1694.18"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1565","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"שלחו אותי אחרי שנפלו פצצות בדונצק. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1694.18,1698.08"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1566","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אוקיי אז הפצצות נפלו בספטמבר. \n\nרעיה 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יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1703.04,1714.22"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1571","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מה? לנסוע \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1714.22,1715.23"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1572","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"זה בהפלגה אחת או שמחליפים? \n\nרעיה 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יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1719.08,1719.08"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1575","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. בארבעה ימים הייתי כאן. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1719.08,1723.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1576","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ועברית את לא יודעת? \n\nרעיה 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בבית אורן, על יד חיפה. והוא הגיע, בחרו בו כמוכתר. מה קרה לו? אחרי זה הייתה תאונת אווירון בטבריה והאווירון נפל והרג כמה אנשים והוא היה בין אלה שנהרגו. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1764.09,1817.16"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1584","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ב-56' בטקס. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1817.16,1819.1"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1585","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן כן כן כן. אז אחר כך האח שלו שלחו בסטרומה. זה אתה יודע מה שקרה עם סטרומה, אז גם הוא נעלם. האח השלישי גם כן קרה איזה קטסטרופה. המשפחה הזאתי עברה גיהנום, אבל הם עמדו בשלהם. עברית, זהו. אני פעם סיפרתי אצל גולדה יותר מאוחר הרבה יותר מאוחר סיפור של משפחת פיכמן, למה? כי מאותו היום שהייתי צריכה להביא משלחת מקנדה, נשים מקנדה מויצ\"ו לגולדה היה בעיתון שבאותו היום נהרג בחור אחד שעמד בגולן וכדור אחד הרג אותו וזה היה הבן האחרון, פיכמן. אז אני אז אמרתי לגולדה, אם תרשי לי במקום להציג את כל החברות שלי כיוון שזה ייקח הרבה זמן, אני רוצה לספר על מה שקרה היום וסיפרתי איך הבחור הזה הרביעי נהרג באותו היום. הוספתי לה, אם תוכלי, הסבתא שלו חיה אם את יכולה לכתוב לה מכתב תנחומים זו מצווה גדולה מאוד. לקבל ממך מכתב האישה הזאתי בטח היא לא תתגבר על האסון הזה, אבל זה ייתן לה הרבה. למחרת בבוקר צלצלה מזכירה של גולדה שגם את השם ידעתי ושאלה אותי איפה היא, הסבתא, אז אמרתי לה איפה ואחר כך שנים אחרי זה פגשתי בחורה שאמרה לי, את רעיה חויריש? אמרתי כן, אז אמרתי, את סיפרת לגולדה זה וזה וזה? אמרתי כן. אז אני רוצה את הכתובת מפני שאני מכירה את הסבתא. וגולדה שלחה לה מכתב. כי היא הראתה לי את התשובה. זה היה ממש, ברוסית אומרים \"סקאזקה\" סיפור, כן זה קשה להאמין, אבל מפני שקרה כל זה האבא ירד מדעתו ולא הכיר את אף אחד, רק את אבא שלי. אבא שלי היה מבקר אצלו, הוא זכר אותו. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1819.1,1968.23"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1586","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מה שמו? את זוכרת את שמו הפרטי של האבא של פיכמן? \n\nרעיה 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יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1977.2,1981.22"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1589","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן, גרתי אצלם. לא הרבה זמן. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1981.22,1987.21"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1590","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ועלית לאוניברסיטה יום אחרי זה. \n\nרעיה 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יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1992.2,1997.09"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1593","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1997.09,1997.09"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1594","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אבל החוויה הזאת של לראות את חיפה, את הנמל, \n\nרעיה 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יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=2002.13,2002.13"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1597","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"רגע. אני התאהבתי בדרך מתל אביב לירושלים. הריח של התפוזים, הבושם של תפוזים והייתי ממש, לא יכולתי להאמין שזה קיים. אני בערב כתבתי הביתה, אני לא חוזרת, אני אשאר כאן. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=2002.13,2027.03"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1598","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"באותו יום, יום אחרי. \n\nרעיה 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הוגו, האימא שלך אמרה לי לבוא אלייך ושאתה תכיר לי כאן אנשים. כן, בבקשה. באמת ישבו שתים עשרה בחורים ובחורה אחת גרמנייה. שמה היה הלנברג, אבל היא אחר כך עזבה חזרה לגרמניה ובין השתים עשרה האלה היו שלושה יגלומים. אחד היה בעלי, אחד היה אחיו הצעיר ביותר ואחד היה בן דוד. ואנחנו התחלנו לצאת ככה כל יום כבר ידענו זה המקום שלנו איפה שנפגשים. בקצרה, אחרי חודש בעלי ביקש ממני להתחתן איתו. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=2052.09,2170.07"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1606","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מה שמו הפרטי? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=2170.07,2171.16"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1607","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"יוסף. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=2171.16,2172.18"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1608","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"יוסף. \n\nרעיה 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ברחו לבוקרשט. אני כבר הייתי בפלסטינה, כן? והם התחילו בקונסוליה האנגלית להכין לעצמם את הניירות, את הויזה המפורסמת הזו. לקבל שמה ויזה זה לא היה פשוט, זה היה נורא קשה. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=2173.18,2258.14"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1610","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"סרטיפיקט \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=2258.14,2260.02"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1611","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"סרטיפיקט, סרטיפיקט. טוב אחרי זה, אני בינתיים התחתנתי. אותה גברת שיפטר שהיא שלחה אותי לשם, היא הייתה הממלאת מקום שלי. ויוסף היה שייך למשפחת בראלי שהוא הקים כאן בנק לאומי. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=2260.02,2283.24"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1612","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אנחנו ראיינו את חיה. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=2283.24,2285.24"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1613","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן, כן. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=2285.24,2285.24"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1614","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. הבן שלה זה אבי בראלי. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=2285.24,2289.24"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1615","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"נכון, אבל אני הייתי קרובה עם ההורים שלו. \n\nפלג 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אוקיי אז אמרתי, אני לא יכולה להתחתן, אני לא קיבלתי תשובה למכתב שלי ואני לא יודעת אם מותר לי. טוב, מפה לשם, דיברנו, דיברנו, דיברנו, הם אמרו, אנחנו מקבלים את ההחלטה הזאת, הבראליס. אייזיק היה שמו והיא הייתה אווה בראלי, יגלום בראלי. היא הייתה רופאה לאף אוזן וגרון. היא הייתה עסקנית גדולה בפוליטיקה והיא הייתה שמה בבית הכרתי בפעם הראשונה ישראלים ככה מכובדים את כל אנשי הבימה וכבר היה בית ככה ישראלי ממש. ואני אמרתי לו, אני לא יכולה, אצלנו אין דבר כזה, לא מתחתנים בלי שההורים ידעו. אז בראלי ואשתו אמרו אנחנו נהיה האחראים, כי יוסף לא רצה אף פעם להתחתן. אז הם, אם הם אמרו שאנחנו ניקח את האחריות על עצמנו, זה כבר לכל המשפחה, זה כבר אחריות כלפי כל המשפחה. אחים שלו כולם ידעו הוא אף פעם לא יתחתן. הוא לא רצה להתחתן. אז זה נעשה. טוב, התחתנו ברמת גן ואחרי חודשיים ההורים שלי הגיעו. הם קיבלו את הכל, את הניירות והם הגיעו. זה כבר היה אחרי החתונה. אבל אחותי ז\"ל לא רצתה לעזוב איתם. היא גם הייתה בחווה בקיץ. כי הבעל שלה היה בן של רופאים. שניהם היו רופאים אימא ואבא והוא לא רצה לעזוב בלי ההורים שלו אז היא נשארה שם איתו. נו אז הם כבר עברו כל הגיהנומים... היו בצ'רנוביץ' בגטו ושמה נולדה גם הילדה שלהם. זה כבר התחלת הצרות שהיו לנו אחר כך. היא הגיעה הנה אחרי חמש שנים רק. מי שהביא אותה אז היה שייקה טרכטנברג, אתה פעם שמעת ממנו? \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=2294.12,2467.09"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1618","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"שמעתי את השם הזה... \n\nרעיה 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יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=2478.12,2478.12"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1621","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"שייקה דן. ושייקה דן עזר להם לצאת, לאחותי ז\"ל ובעלה והילדה. הביא אותם עד פלטיצ'ן שמה שוב עצרו אותם עד שנה וחצי הם נשארו שם, ופלטיצ'ן היו רומנים, איתם לא עושים עסקים מלוכלכים. אז הם ישבו שנה וחצי נדמה לי ואחר כך הוא העביר אותם גם הנה, אבל אנחנו לא ידענו שבשנה הזאתי וחצי שהיא הייתה בגטו היא חלתה. היא חלתה עם הוצ'קינס שזה סרטן לנשים, אבל היום זה כבר לא כל כך מסוכן, אבל אז זה עוד היה מאוד מסוכן. בקיצר הם הגיעו הנה, תודות לו, שייקה דן. אחר כך אני נפגשתי איתו גם בצורה אחרת כי יום אחד הוא צלצל אלי למשרד ואמרתי, שייקה אתה מצלצל אליי, אתה רוצה להיכנס לבית אבות? אז הוא אמר, איך את יודעת? אמרתי, נו למה אתה מצלצל אליי? הוא רצה לבית אבות להיכנס של ויצ\"ו שהיה בהתחלה מאוד אלגנטי, מאוד יפה, אבל הוא גם חלה והיו באים לבקר אצלו שמעון פרס וכל הגדולים הגדולים, אבל הוא גם כן חלה והוא מת. רוזה הייתה שמה, היא חיה עוד כמה שנים אבל היא מתה בבית חולים הדסה. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=2478.12,2586.19"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1622","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז ההורים הגיעו, מישהו, מי עוד הגיע איתם עוד מהמשפחה? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=2586.19,2590.1"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1623","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"סבתא ודוד ואשתו והילדים הם הביאו את הכול, את כולם. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=2590.1,2596.17"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1624","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"זה די נדיר, זה לא כל כך פשוט במלחמה. \n\nרעיה 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יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=2600.03,2602.09"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1627","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"זה היה דבר מאוד גדול שהוא השיג וזה אבא שלי, כי הוא היה פייטר. אז שייקה דן היה בן של שכנים שלנו. השכנים היו ממול. אני אפילו זוכרת את הבית עם כמה מדרגות. רגע אני אבקש עוד תה בשבילך. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=2602.09,2628.04"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1628","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"רגע, אני תכף אני לא הקלטתי את זה אמרת. \n\nרעיה 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יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=2653.02,2660.01"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1633","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=2660.01,2660.16"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1634","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כל אחר כך עם סיפור ההצלה עם הרב שפרן. \n\nרעיה 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לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=2766.11,2812.23"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1651","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"בפטיסט. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=2812.23,2814.04"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1652","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"בפטיסט. הם גרו בבוקרשט, מאוד התיישרו. הבן הזה לא קיבל שום חינוך יהודי. הוא באמת חשב שהוא בודהיסט, טוב זה כבר סיפור אחר. יש כאן סיפורים מסביב, עוד ועוד ועוד. נעצרתי אני כבר לא זוכרת איפה, עם המשפחה. \n\nפלג 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לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=2855.23,2859.08"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1655","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"והם מגלים שאת כבר התחתנת. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=2859.08,2859.08"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1656","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. פלג לוי :עם יגלום. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=2859.08,2862.15"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1657","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. ואחרי שמונה חודשים או משהו כבר נולד לי בן, הבן המפורסם שלי. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=2862.15,2871.11"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1658","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"שמו? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=2871.11,2873.06"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1659","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אלחנן, אלאן. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=2873.06,2874.16"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1660","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. \n\nרעיה 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שהתחתנו וחיכינו קצת בדאגה שרימל מתקרב למצרים, לישראל. אצלנו בבית... \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=2936.06,2960.06"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1666","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"רומל. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=2960.06,2961.17"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1667","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"סליחה? \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=2961.17,2961.17"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1668","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"רומל. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=2961.17,2962.17"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1669","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"רומל, כן. מה אני אמרתי? \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=2962.17,2963.19"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1670","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"רימל, לא נורא. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=2963.19,2968.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1671","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אצלנו האווירה בבית הייתה מאוד אופטימית. לא יודעת למה, ככה. אז כולם אהבו לבוא אלינו. שדאגו אמרתי אין דאגה, זה יסתדר. \n\nפלג 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לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=2981.04,2986.2"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1674","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"זה הצפון של אז. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=2986.2,2988.09"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1675","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן ושהוא מצא שמה טלפון על הרצפה זה הכניסו לו. ואחר כך באו רהיטים וכל היתר. חברה שלא כל כך ידעה על האסון שקורה באירופה, ממש לא. היינו הולכים הרבה לקולנוע, היינו משחקים קלפים, היינו נוסעים לטיולים. היו חיים מאוד נוחים, נעימים. זה לא כמו היום. היום זה משהו אחר. היום אף אחד כבר לא מכיר אף אחד, כמעט. אז לא ידענו מי, מה, מו. היינו בסך הכול בכל פלסטינה 600 אלף יהודים, כן. אז כמה היו בתל אביב? \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=2988.09,3040.141"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1676","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אלף. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3040.141,3041.201"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1677","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אלף. אוקיי זה לא כל כך הרבה. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3041.201,3045.14"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1678","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן זה לא הרבה. אז מה שאת מתארת תמונת מצב, זוגות צעירים שידם משגת נמצאים אנשי תרבות, הורים צעירים. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3045.14,3060.12"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1679","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן, אבל כולנו היינו שייכים או להגנה או לאחת התנועות האלה. \n\nפלג 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לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3071.18,3072.2"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1682","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"את כבר אימא? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3072.2,3072.2"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1683","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3072.2,3074.06"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1684","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז איך זה קורה? מה זה אומר? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3074.06,3076.02"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1685","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"זה אומר ששלחו אותי מטעם הגנה לצפון לעשות קשר בין הקיבוצים, עם פתקאות, עם דברים, אנחנו צריכים זה. נשק אנחנו צריכים זה ובעלי היה שייך להגנה אבל זה מחלקה אחרת. הוא אפילו זוכר, הוא מספר שהוא לקח פעם בטעות רימון ביד וכמעט שזה התפוצץ לו ביד. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3076.02,3104.15"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1686","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אתם הייתם בתל אביב כשהאיטלקים הפציצו? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3104.15,3106.22"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1687","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. ואז אני מה אני עשיתי? אני הייתי בבית ספר לפיסול. זה לקחתי לעצמי ללמוד פיסול ופתאום טראח פצצות. אז אני רצתי הביתה. הבית ספר היה בפרישמן. הבית ספר קיים זה בית ספר שעכשיו הוא ביפו. איך קוראים לבית ספר הזה? \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3106.22,3131.08"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1688","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אבני? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3131.08,3131.08"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1689","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אבני. אז אני רצתי מפרישמן עם כל החומר שהיה לי על הידיים הביתה לראות מה קרה לתינוק וקצת נבהלנו. אז החלטנו לצאת לרעננה. לקחנו בית קטן ברעננה. פשוט כדי לעבור את התקופה הזאתי וברעננה מצאנו בית ששכרנו והילדה שאלה איך קוראים לילד תמיד את אומרת בוב'לה, בוב'לה, בוא ילד. אמרתי אלחנן אמרתי. אלחנן ילד כזה קטן שם כזה ארוך. תקראי לו אלן הצעיר. זה היה שם של הסבא שלי. טוב ואחרי המלחמה \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3131.08,3177.07"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1690","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"רגע אבל אני רוצה לשמוע עוד על התקופה הזו. לגבי באותה תקופה במלחמה, עכשיו כשההורים באים, \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3177.07,3184.2"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1691","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן? \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3184.2,3187.18"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1692","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מה הם מספרים? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3187.18,3187.18"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1693","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"השכרנו להם דירה המצב לא היה כל כך טוב. זה כבר לא היה המצב של צ'רנוביץ' שהכל היה לנו והכל \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3187.18,3200.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1694","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"הם הצליחו להביא כסף? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3200.0,3201.12"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1695","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3201.12,3201.12"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1696","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3201.12,3202.18"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1697","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"זה כבר בעלי עזר להם. חוץ מזה אבא שהיה רוקח בתל אביב, בצ'רנוביץ הוא עזר עם הבית חרושת של יוסף שהיה לו ארדי. ארדי זה היה לאוכל, לכל מיני דברים להאכלה הוא רצה \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3202.18,3221.24"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1698","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"רגע אז מה יוסף יגלום בארץ אז מה הוא עושה בגיל הזה בתקופה הזאת? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3221.24,3227.14"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1699","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"הוא מתחיל לבנות בית חרושת לאוכל, יחד עם דרויאנוב. דרויאנוב כבר היה כאן. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3227.14,3235.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1700","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"האר. די. זה אר ודי כזה אר אנד די? \n\nרעיה 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יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3260.13,3261.19"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1707","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן, כן \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3261.19,3264.04"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1708","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז התקופה הזאת בעיקר הצרכנים זה הצבא הבריטי? \n\nרעיה 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יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3278.03,3279.19"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1711","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"בחולון. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3279.19,3282.09"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1712","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ומה מייצרים שם? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3282.09,3285.09"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1713","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ריבה וג'לי וכל מיני דברים כאלה. העיקר זה ריבה וג'לי. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3285.09,3295.22"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1714","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"יש פה תמונות של המפעל? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3295.22,3297.12"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1715","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3297.12,3298.19"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1716","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3298.19,3299.21"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1717","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא, אבל באותו הזמן התחילו גם עסיס. בית חרושת עסיס של בז'רנו. בית חורשת גם כן אקא של גרטנר. גרטנר. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3299.21,3313.24"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1718","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כל אלה זה אוכל את מתכוונת? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3313.24,3316.05"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1719","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3316.05,3316.05"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1720","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3316.05,3317.17"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1721","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ועוד אני פעם ידעתי את כל השמות. עכשיו אני כבר שכחתי. זה הייתה קבוצה של תעשיינים שהתחילו לבנות בתי חרושת למזון. והנשיא שלהם היה שנקר. אתה יודע מי זה שנקר. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3317.17,3336.18"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1722","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"בוודאי. \n\nרעיה 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לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3338.23,3374.12"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1724","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3374.12,3375.18"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1725","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז לא ידענו מה שהולך באירופה. לא ידענו מה שיודעים בסוכנות בירושלים, שום דבר. זה לא עובר דרכנו, אבל מהעיתון ידענו שקורה זה וזה וזה. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3375.18,3391.06"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1726","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז אוקיי. אז יוסף עסוק במפעל ואת מגדלת את אלן \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3391.06,3400.08"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1727","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן, מגדלת את אלן, לומדת פיסול. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3400.08,3402.14"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1728","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"איך השם בדיוק? אלעל את אומרת? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3402.14,3405.16"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1729","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אלאן. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3405.16,3406.17"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1730","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אלן, אלן, אוקיי \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3406.17,3408.03"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1731","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אל חנן, אלן. הילדה הזאתי עשתה מזה שם קצר אלחנן. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3408.03,3414.06"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1732","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אוקיי. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3414.06,3415.1"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1733","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אלן. טוב אחרי ההגנה אז חזרתי הביתה ברור. פעם כמעט שעצרו אותי בצפון שמה. נסענו לעשות קשר בין הקיבוצים. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3415.1,3429.21"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1734","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3429.21,3430.24"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1735","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז פעם עצר אותי איזה קצין אנגלי ואמר, מה את עושה פה? אמרתי, אני מבקרת חברים. איילת השחר, שמה הייתי גרה. היום זה יפהפה של מקום, זה היה אז לכלוך ובוץ והמיטה הייתה עומדת על הבוץ, באוהל אל תשאלו. אז הוא התחיל להתווכח איתי. הוא ראה אותי יותר מדי פעמים לעלות ולרדת ולך תספר לו שאני עושה קשר שם, לא. אז שיצאנו, נסענו הביתה משם. אז נתנו לי כמה בחורים של הקיבוצים שיסעו איתי באוטו. עוצרים אותנו והבחורים פחדו מוות. האוטו היה שלי, של הבית חרושת. אז החזיקו אותי עם הבחורים כמה שעות. אמרתי תביטו לי יש ילד קטן בבית, אני צריכה להודיע הביתה שאני כאן. אז הם נתנו לי להתקשר הביתה. למי שייך האוטו? בית חרושת ארדי. תירוץ טוב, אבל לא נתנו כל כך בקלות. בשש נתנו לנו לנסוע. במקום לנסוע דרך חיפה לתל אביב, אני נסעתי לטול כרם נו אז זה היה ברוך, לא היה כל כך נעים. אבל זה לא הפריע לי זה היה \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3430.24,3533.03"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1736","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"זה בעצם היה ההגנה גייסה את האמצעים של המפעל לצרכים? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3533.03,3538.16"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1737","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא, לא, לא, הם גייסו הרבה אנשים שהיו מוכנים. היו לי גם חברות שמה שהיינו נפגשים יחד. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3538.16,3546.19"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1738","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"עכשיו אני רוצה לשאול אותך, בחברה שלכם \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3546.19,3548.17"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1739","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3548.17,3551.01"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1740","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"בתקופה הזאת איך אתם רואים את כל הנושא של המאבק בבריטים, של האצ\"ל ושל הלח\"י? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3551.01,3556.06"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1741","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז תראה, \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3556.06,3557.1"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1742","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"את זוכרת שרצחו את יאיר? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3557.1,3559.1"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1743","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"בוודאי, בוודאי. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3559.1,3560.13"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1744","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"בפברואר 42'? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3560.13,3561.15"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1745","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"בוודאי, בוודאי. לא היו לי אז מכירים או ידידים כמו אחר כך היו לי שמירים וכל חבר'ה האלה, שאגב שמיר הלוא היה אחראים לפיצוץ בקינג דויד. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3561.15,3579.02"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1746","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא, שמיר לא, שמיר היה בלח\"י. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3579.02,3583.12"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1747","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן, אז מי זה עשה? \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3583.12,3584.22"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1748","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"זה האצ\"ל. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3584.22,3585.22"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1749","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אצ\"ל, אז אני יום לפני הפיצוץ לקחתי את אחותי ז\"ל לשם לנוח כי היה נורא חם כאן בתל אביב. ואמרתי לה בואי ניסע לקינג דויד זה מלון נהדר, קריר, יהיה לנו טוב שם. היא אומרת בסדר. נו, נסענו בבוקר לקינג דיוויד, ישבנו בפינה על יד הפסנתר אני לא אשכח את זה, עם החברה שלי שבאה על אונייה, ספרלינג, שפיגל, ופתאום יצא המנהל בבית מלון קינג דיוויד, שמו היה, לא זוכרת, והוא אמר באנגלית, כולם לחדרים. אנחנו לא ידענו למה, אז התחלנו לעלות. החדר שלנו היה בקומה ראשונה והיינו צריכים לעלות כמה מדרגות. איך שהגענו לדלת בקומה הראשונה, טראח, פיצוץ. מזה אחותי ז\"ל קיבלה היסטריקה ממש, בגלל המחלה שהיה לה והיא חלתה מאוד, ואחרי חודש היא נפטרה. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3585.22,3672.02"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1750","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"רגע, אז את היית במלון בפיצוץ? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3672.02,3674.18"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1751","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3674.18,3675.21"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1752","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא כל יום אני פוגש מישהו שהיה במלון בפיצוץ. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3675.21,3677.23"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1753","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"בבקשה. אני אמרתי את זה לפדרמן הרבה פעמים, אתה הכל רושם כל מיני משפחה, שם משפחה אני רואה בעיתון שלכם, אנחנו ישבנו שמה, היינו בזמן, ואי אפשר. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3677.23,3692.16"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1754","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לפדרמן? למה לפדרמן? לא הבנתי. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3692.16,3695.1"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1755","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"הם כבר היו בעלי המלון. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3695.1,3697.16"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1756","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"רגע, איזה פדרמן? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3697.16,3700.08"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1757","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כסיל, כסיל. המשפחה הזאתי מפורסמת, כסיל. \n\nפלג 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לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3706.03,3710.1"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1760","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3710.1,3710.1"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1761","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"של ארבעה חדרים, חמישה חדרים. בעלי היה צוחק תמיד שהוא היה בא לארץ ישראל הוא היה גר שמה, ועכשיו כסיל פדרמן הוא בעל בתי מלון. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3710.1,3723.08"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1762","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז רגע, אז באמת מי היו הבעלים של מלון המלך דוד כשזה פוצץ? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3723.08,3727.21"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1763","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"זה אני לא זוכרת. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3727.21,3729.07"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1764","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אף פעם לא, זה היה פרטי בסופו של דבר. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3729.07,3731.2"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1765","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן אבל... \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3731.2,3731.2"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1766","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"הצבא הבריטי שילם כסף כדי להיות שם. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3731.2,3734.18"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1767","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן, אבל זה אני לא זוכרת. אני יודעת שאז מטעם ההגנה כבר הייתי ממונה על בתי מלון לשמוע על השיחות שלהם בין אנגלית ואני יודעת מה עוד דיברו שמה. והיינו רושמים את השיחות. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3734.18,3750.13"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1768","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3750.13,3753.08"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1769","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"זה היה העבודה שלנו. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3753.08,3758.08"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1770","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"רגע, סימן פה. שנייה, אני רוצה להבין כי העדות שלך היא חשובה, \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3758.08,3765.03"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1771","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3765.03,3766.04"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1772","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"בעניין הזה שאת אומרת שכמה דקות לפני הפיצוץ הרי הייתה אזעקה. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3766.04,3771.07"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1773","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"נכון. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3771.07,3772.1"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1774","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"את שמעת גם את האזעקה? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3772.1,3773.14"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1775","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא. שמענו רק שמישהו ירה. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3773.14,3777.15"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1776","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"שמעתם יריות? כי היו יריות למטה במרתף. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3777.15,3778.15"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1777","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן, ירייה. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3778.15,3780.1"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1778","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ירייה אחת? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3780.1,3780.1"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1779","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אחת. ושאלנו את המלצר שעבר על ידינו, מה קורה כאן? למה יורים כאן? אז הוא אמר שקצין אנגלי התאבד. אז הוא אמר. אחרי זה ישבנו הלאה. אבל כשיצא המנהל ואמר כולם לחדרים, אז הבנו שיש כאן משהו לא טוב והתחלנו לעלות לחדרים, ואי אפשר היה להגיע לאף מקום, לתל אביב לא היה קשר, לטלפן אפילו לתל אביב היה קשה מאוד, היות שהלכנו הביתה להדי שפיגל אחרי שהיא באה לשתות איתנו קפה היא כבר אחר כך לקחה אותנו הביתה. אי אפשר לקחת טרמפ לתל אביב, לא היה עם מה. אז אנחנו גרנו אצלה בלילה ולמחרת בבוקר הודענו להורים שאנחנו כאן ואנחנו בבית פרטי אבל אנחנו ברגע שנוכל לצאת אנחנו נבוא הביתה. אבל השוק היה די גדול. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3780.1,3843.16"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1780","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז רגע, בעצם העדות שלך שהמנהל מזהיר את האנשים. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3843.16,3847.24"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1781","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3847.24,3849.19"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1782","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"זה רק מצדיק את זה שהמלון קיבל הודעה. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3849.19,3852.16"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1783","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן, כן. הם קיבלו הודעה לשחרר את כל האולם שלא יהיה אף אחד. אז הוא אמר להגיד לנו אפילו לכולם, תעלו לחדרים שלכם, אז עשינו את זה. ולא ידענו עד שנגיע לכניסה לחדר יהיה פיצוץ. גם לא ידענו אחר כך מה היה הפיצוץ הזה. הלא לא אמרו לנו, לא באו להגיד לנו, חבר'ה זה פיצוץ, לא. כן. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3852.16,3881.2"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1784","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז אחותך היא... \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3881.2,3883.08"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1785","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"היא נפטרה לפני חודש. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3883.08,3885.15"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1786","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"חודש. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3885.15,3886.21"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1787","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מהפיצוץ, מהשוק ההוצ'קין שלה התפשט על כל הגוף. ופעם ישב אצלי בבית שמיר עם אישתו כי אנחנו בזמן האחרון לפני שנפטרו היינו הרבה יחד אז. אני אומרת לו, אתה יודע מר שמיר, אחותי היחידה נפטרה אחרי הפיצוץ בקינג דיוויד, וחשבתי שהוא יגיד משהו, שהוא יעשה. לא, הוא היה סגור, הוא לא היה מדבר, שום דבר. הוא לא ענה לי, לא אמר לי לא כן ולא לא וככה זה נשאר. הוא רק שמע מה שאני אמרתי לו, זה הכל. אנחנו אחרי הבית חולים לקחנו אותה לבית מלון, לקחנו אותה בחזרה לבית חולים, להדסה ושם אמרו, זה התפשט על כל הגוף שלה, אין לכם מה לעשות. נו, אז היא נשארה בבית חולים ואחר כך היא נפטרה שם. אבל בעצם אתה מזכיר לי דבר אחר. הקייטדן הקטן שהיה על שפת הים, לא על שפת הים, בין הירקון והחול שם, זה היה שייך לויצ\"ו. הדסה סמואל שהייתה אז יושבת ראש רצתה למכור את זה כי היא רצתה את הכסף לויצ\"'ו, והיא מכרה את זה, למי? לפדרמן. היא מכרה את זה ב-4,000 לירות, זה לא סלחנו לה אף פעם. ואחר כך קנינו עוד חלק, היה צריף ששייך, אני לא יודעת למי זה היה שייך. חצי היה של ויצ\"ו והחצי של ועד למען החייל. ברחוב הירקון היה צריף גדול שהיה יורד עד החול, עד שפת הים. ואני אמרתי לו פעם אחת, אתה יודע מה תקנה את זה, אנחנו לא צריכים את זה, אנחנו צריכים כסף. הוא קנה, הוא גם קנה מועד למען החייל והוא התחיל לבנות את המלון דן. זה פרטים שלא יודעים. וכולם שמעו שאני קיבלתי מאה אלף לירות אז מפדרמן בשביל החלק הזה זה, חשבו שאני גאון, אבל קיבלתי. כי הוא נורא רצה את זה. וככה הוא התחיל לבנות את מלון דן. טוב נו, אז מה. היו הרבה דברים מוזרים אז, אבל דבר אחד אני לא מבינה עד היום. היינו כמה שהיינו אבל השקט שהיה לנו, הלא אכפתיות, אז יש מלחמה באירופה, אז מה? לא מספיק ידענו מהשואה, לא מהסוכנות מירושלים לא הגיע עד אלינו פרטים של השואה. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3886.21,4095.23"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1788","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"את אומרת את זה כי את חושבת שהסוכנות כן ידעה? \n\nרעיה 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יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4110.02,4114.02"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1791","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"או שלא רצו להתחיל צרות עם האנגלים, או שבן גוריון בוודאי ידע והיו שם עוד אנשים שידעו ולא עשו מספיק או שלא נתנו להם לעשות. למה זה לא הגיע אלינו? למה אנחנו לא הרגשנו כלום מזה, למה? אנחנו חיים ככה, חיים די טובים, קלים, נעימים, הכל היה, אפשר היה לקבל את הכל, זהו. זה אני אף פעם לא הבנתי. ואין לי עם מי לדבר שם, אני ישבתי בסוכנות בזמן ששרת היה יושב ראש ואחר כך פינקוס, ואחר כך דולצ'ין, ואחר כך ספיר, ואחר כך מי עוד? זה שהיה פעם שר העבודה מחיפה, אלמוגי. כל אלה אני הכרתי, למה לא שאלתי אותם? \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4114.02,4184.16"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1792","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מתי התחלת לעבוד בסוכנות? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4184.16,4187.08"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1793","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ב-36. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4187.08,4192.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1794","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא 30, ב-36 עוד היית באירופה, לא. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4192.0,4195.12"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1795","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ב-46. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4195.12,4195.1246"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1796","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":", רגע אז זהו זה התקופה, זה מעניין, רגע. מלון המלך דוד זה קיץ '46, היה חם לאחותך. אז ב-46 בקיץ את עובדת בסוכנות? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4195.1246,4212.16"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1797","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4212.16,4214.21"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1798","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז אחרי זה את מתחילה לעבוד? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4214.21,4216.16"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1799","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. לא לעבוד. זאת אומרת הייתה רבקה זיו, היא נפטרה. אני ביקשתי משרת שיתנו את המקום לרוזה גינוסר שהייתה יושבת ראש הבאה בתור אחרי רבקה זיו. אז הוא אמר שהוא לא יכול. כי המקום שלה, היא לא נבחרה, היא רק הוזמנה כי רבקה זיו אישיות יהודית-אנגלית, לא לא, גם לא עלה על דעתי איך לשאול. דווקא דיברנו הרבה על עלייה והרבה, כל הצרות שהיו אז בסוכנות אני הכרתי כבר, כבר הייתי בתוך העניינים. אבל למה זה, לא שאלתי אף פעם. למה? זה לא ייתכן שכמה היינו בתל אביב? שישים אלף, פחות. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4216.16,4276.13"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1800","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא, זה בארבעים, לא אולי היו יותר לא יודע, מתוך כל ה-600? אולי, 60 בטוח. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4276.13,4283.16"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1801","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"יחד עם רמת גן אולי. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4283.16,4285.07"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1802","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"יכול להיות. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4285.07,4286.12"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1803","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא לא, זה אצלי נשאר תמיד סימן שאלה. אבל אולי לא דיברו על זה, אני יודעת מה. ולא, בן גוריון לא ישב אצלנו כיושב ראש. ישב שרת היה מתווך חלש, הוא לא אהב גם שאלות שעל זה בוא נגיד... \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4286.12,4313.06"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1804","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז רגע, את עוברת לגור בירושלים בגלל אחותך? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4313.06,4314.23"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1805","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא לא, אני נסעתי לשם חמש פעמים בשבוע. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4314.23,4318.05"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1806","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"חמש פעמים בשבוע ב-1946 נוסעים ברכבת? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4318.05,4322.02"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1807","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא, עם האוטו! האוטו של, של המשרד, של ויצ\"ו. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4322.02,4327.2"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1808","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ואת נוהגת? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4327.2,4328.21"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1809","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4328.21,4331.1"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1810","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"זה חתיכת נסיעה בימים האלה. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4331.1,4332.23"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1811","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. הייתי חוזרת מהקונגרסים הציוניים ב-5 בבוקר, ב-4 בבוקר. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4332.23,4341.02"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1812","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מה זאת אומרת הקונגרסים הציוניים? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4341.02,4343.06"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1813","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"תראה, כל 4 שנים יש קונגרס ציוני, כן? \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4343.06,4346.15"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1814","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4346.15,4347.18"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1815","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"נו אז כל 4 שנים היו נוסעים. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4347.18,4351.14"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1816","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"רגע אז הקונגרס ב-46. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4351.14,4353.07"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1817","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"הישיבות היו תמיד ביום ראשון, יום ראשון היינו עולים עם הנהג או לבד לישיבת הסוכנות. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4353.07,4361.19"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1818","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מה התפקיד שלך? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4361.19,4363.12"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1819","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"זהו, זה מעניין. שאלה טובה. היות שאני הייתי מתנדבת ולא כי באתי ולא כי ביקשתי משכורת, אז אני הייתי בוא נגיד יועצת. היות שאני הייתי מייצגת רבע מיליון נשים של ויצ\"ו. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4363.12,4385.11"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1820","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כבר אז? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4385.11,4386.13"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1821","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן בטח. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4386.13,4387.12"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1822","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"רגע. אז את מגיעה לסוכנות בשם ויצ\"ו? \n\nרעיה 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יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4422.11,4425.06"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1831","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. לי זה היה לעזור לנשים. זה היה תפקיד שלנו. התחלנו לבנות מוסדות ילדים, הפדרציות נתנו כסף, אנחנו בנינו. לא היה תפקיד מי יודע מה, אבל יותר צדקה. זהו. ואחר כך לאט לאט התקדמתי בלהיות חברת הנהלה, גם לא הייתה לי זכות הצבעה, זה אני לחמתי, אני אני אמרתי כמה שנים אני אשב כאן בלי זכות הצבעה? רבקה זיו היא ישבה בלי זכות הצבעה, רוזה גינוסר בלי זכות הצבעה, אבל אני דורשת זכות הצבעה, אני לא מוכנה ככה לשבת. המפלגות לא רצו לתת לי. למה? היות שהיינו אל-מפלגתיות אז פחדו שאנחנו נצביע פעם עם זה, פעם עם זה, יהיה להם לא נוח. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4425.06,4485.07"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1832","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז זהו ויצ\"ו הוא ארגעון אל-מפלגתי? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4485.07,4487.14"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1833","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4487.14,4488.15"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1834","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"והבסיס שלו זה בקנדה? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4488.15,4491.05"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1835","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא. כאן. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4491.05,4493.02"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1836","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כאן. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4493.02,4493.02"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1837","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"בארץ כן. קודם היה לונדון אחר כך כאן. אז אני ביקשתי זכות הצבעה. זה לא נוח, הם לא רצו, הם פחדו ממני, איך אני אצביע פעם בשביל הימין, פעם בשביל שמאל. אמרתי אני לא מצביעה, אני מבטיחה לכם, אני גם הלאה לא אצביע, אבל אני חייבת לשבת לדעת שיש לי זכות הצבעה. מה אני יושבת סתם? אז לואי פינקוס מדרום אפריקה היה מאוד חכם, והוא היה ציוני כזה, והוא ידע שיש ויצ\"ו בדרום אפריקה הייתה ויצ\"ו, אז הוא אמר תראי אני אעשה לך ישיבה עם כל נציגי המפלגות, שמונה, תשעה, אני יודעת, תשבי איתם, אם תצליחי להשפיע עליהם שאת לא תצביעי לא ימין ולא שמאל ולא מה שלא טוב להם, אלא תהיי למה שחשוב, כן? איך אומרים? אז הם יתנו לך זכות הצבעה. טוב, עשינו ישיבה ואני רעדתי כמו לא יודעת מה, לבד לשבת עם שמונה נציגים גברים של מפלגות. מי פחד הכי הרבה ממני היו הדתיים. למה? אני לא יודעת. הם, אני כן יודעת. רוזה גינוסר הייתה תמיד אנטי דתי, אז היא ישבה לפניי. הייתה הצבעה להביא עלייה והיא אמרה, דעתי לא להביא לא זקנים ולא חולים. זה היה אידאולוגיה שלה. רוזה גינוסר הייתה כלתו של אחד העם, כן? אז אולי היא למדה על זה אצל בעלה, אני לא יודעת. אבל אז הם לא רצו לתת לויצ\"ו זכות הצבעה, אם הם שמעו שאישה אחת שתשב בישיבה בהנהלה תגיד שלא זקנים ולא חולים אז איזה מין אישה זו? איזה פילוסופיה זה? אז אמרתי אני לא רוצה, אני דורשת זכות הצבעה אתם צריכים להאמין לי. ואם תתפסו אותי פעם שאני כן אצביע ושל מי שאתם לא רוצים, תזרקו אותי מהנהלה. ולואי פינקוס הכיר אותי טוב מאוד, הוא ידע שאם אני מבטיחה, ככה זה יהיה. ובאמת ככה אף פעם לא, אתה יודע כמה שנים ישבתי? בסוכנות מ-36 עד 64. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4493.02,4649.03"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1838","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מ-46, כן מ-46. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4649.03,4649.03"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1839","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מ-46. כן, ישבתי יותר מ-30 שנה שם, לא הצבעתי אף פעם, לא, נמנעתי. או שהייתה הצבעה יצאתי לעשות משהו אני לא יודעת מה. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4649.03,4663.1"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1840","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז רגע, עכשיו אני רוצה להבין לגבי העניין הזה של 1946 תמונת מצב, מה זה אומר הסוכנות היהודית? אז את מגיעה לסוכנות כדמות בכירה בויצ\"ו, כנציגת ויצ\"ו. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4663.1,4677.17"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1841","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן, יושבת ראש. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4677.17,4678.22"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1842","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"יושבת ראש, את יושבת ראש ויצ\"ו ב-46? \n\nרעיה 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יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4689.2,4691.23"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1845","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא, היא נפטרה. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4691.23,4693.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1846","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"היא נפטרה. זה בית רבקה שיש בפתח תקווה, זה על שמה, נכון? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4693.0,4697.03"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1847","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. אבל יש בצפת בית חולים שספיר בנה לכבודה, ולא מזכירים את זה. קוראים לזה זיו. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4697.03,4706.09"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1848","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"נכון. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4706.09,4707.09"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1849","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"זיו, זי איי וי, למה? זה רבקה זיו. ובעלה היה מאוד ג'נטלמן גדול, אני ישבתי ככה בשורה ראשונה כי הייתי חייבת להיות שמה, אז הוא אמר, בואי ושבי פה במקום בקי. אנחנו היינו מאוד בידידות בקי זיו ואני. עליתי וישבתי שם אבל ככה זה היה היחסים. לא היה להם אמון אלינו, הסוכנות. אבל מה, המספר שלנו, שהיה אז 250 אלף, זה כן מצא חן בעיניהם, זה ההסתדרות הציונית \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4707.09,4742.16"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1850","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מאתיים חמישים אלף איפה? איפה בארץ? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4742.16,4744.08"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1851","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא לא, בכל העולם, בעולם. \n\nפלג 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לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4752.05,4752.05"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1856","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ב-1946. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4752.05,4754.12"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1857","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4754.12,4754.12"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1858","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מדהים. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4754.12,4756.14"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1859","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא לא, האמת הוא שאף פעם לא היה מאתיים חמישים אלף. זה אחת הנשים בויצ\"ו ארצית עשתה מעשה התחכמות ואמרה שהיא עושה, ספרה את בדיוק כמה יש בסניפים כאן בארץ חברות, ועשתה מזה מאה אלף. אף פעם לא היו מאה אלף בארץ. אני עכשיו לפני שבועיים רק אמרתי את זה, אבל אמרתי תשתקו כי אחרת זה יתחיל מחדש כל הבלאגן שהיה. יש לנו מאה שבעים בוא נגיד, זה מספיק. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4756.14,4791.03"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1860","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אוקיי. אז מה, עכשיו 1946, אגב הסיפור הזה, רק לחזור רגע למלון המלך דוד האם את יודעת, הרי זה היה בעצם סוף תנועת המרי. התקופה הזאת. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4791.03,4806.16"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1861","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן, כן. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4806.16,4807.17"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1862","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ובעצם הסוכנות היה לה תפקיד משמעותי כאן כי בתקופה הזו, כשאת הגעת את הגעת אולי אחרי, היו עצורים כל, רוב ראשי הסוכנות, כולל שרת בעיקר. כששרת היה עצור, את כבר היית בסוכנות? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4807.17,4822.18"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1863","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. הוא היה יושב ראש שלי הראשון. אבל הוא ישב כבר בבית, הוא כבר היה חולה. הוא ישב בבית והישיבות היו אצלו בבית. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4822.18,4832.03"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1864","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא, אבל כשהוא היה בכלא? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4832.03,4833.18"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1865","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא, לא אני לא הייתי שם. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4833.18,4835.18"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1866","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא היית. אז הגעת, את הגעת כנראה בוא נגיד באוקטובר נובמבר 46 לסוכנות. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4835.18,4838.15"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1867","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"משהו כזה, כן. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4838.15,4842.24"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1868","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"את מכירה את כל העניין הזה שהיה ויכוח שהסוכנות, שהגנה לא לקחה אחריות, שהם גם היו חלק מהעניין? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4842.24,4849.22"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1869","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא. לא, לא, לא. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4849.22,4851.15"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1870","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"את לא מכירה את זה. אוקיי אז עכשיו בואי נתקדם כי מה שמעניין הפעילות של הסוכנות ב-47, 1947 היא שנה מאוד משמעותית במאבק בבריטים, כל הפיצוצים הגדולים, פריצה לכלא עכו, עולי הגרדום, שנה מאוד מאוד, הבריטים מסתגרים 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נכנסה עם מייטרל, קיש היה שמה, מייטרל זה הממונה על כל אחיות, והוציאו אותה ממש אחד ואחד, הכניסו למוסד אם וילד, עד שהחליטו זה קטן, זה לא הולך, צריכים לבנות משהו גדול. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4964.09,5000.03"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1888","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ושם עם האמהות האלה \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=5000.03,5002.12"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1889","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"רגע אחד, עכשיו אני נזכרת את השנה, 48 התחילו לבנות את מוסד אם וילד כדי לקבל כל הילדים מקפריסין. הנה, תשמע אני לא זוכרת הכל בע\"פ. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=5002.12,5014.02"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1890","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא זה בסדר, מצויין. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=5014.02,5019.13"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1891","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אבל לאט לאט זה מתחיל, וזה בנתה דרום אפריקה, והם היו מאוד פעילות ולואי פינקוס עזר להם הרבה מאוד כי הוא היה דרום אפריקאי. והייתה ישיבה שם עם ראש העיר, מי זה היה אז ראש העיר? מי היה ראש העיר ב-48? לבנון? לא. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=5019.13,5048.15"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1892","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מודה שאני לא יודע. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=5048.15,5051.07"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1893","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"טוב. אז הם יצאו מהישיבה וצעקו זה ילד! זה ילד! זאת אומרת הצליחו לקבל רישיון לבנות מוסד אם וילד. זה 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יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=5122.17,5131.18"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1906","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אחרי קום המדינה התחילו הנסיעות שלי לחוץ לארץ. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=5131.18,5135.05"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1907","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"זה מאוד מעניין. אז נעשה פרק, את הפרק הבא. \n\nרעיה 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יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=5180.1419,5184.07"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1922","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן, אני שמחה שכתבתי כי היום זה גם כן שכחתי. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=5184.07,5189.06"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48781/annotation/1923","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. טוב אז בעצם את בימים האלה אחר כך שיהיו שכל הנושא של הכרזת המדינה, לפני הישיבות של לפני ההכרזה, את עדה להם במסגרת התפקיד שלך? לא. \n\nרעיה 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יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=178.06,179.11"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2015","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"רגע גם סבא היה פעם אחת כאן עם אבא לביקור וגם סבא רצה שאני אסע הנה. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=179.11,187.07"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2016","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"הם היו, איזה סוג של יהודים הם היו מבחינה דתית? \n\nרעיה 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יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=215.0,219.06"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2021","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"יש בספר שלי כתבתי על פוגרומים ברוסיה. בעלי ז\"ל הוא גדל בתקופה ההיא. הם היו באוקראינה ואז שלחו אותו אימא שלו שלחה אותו לעזור למשפחה בתוך רוסיה אז אני כותבת שם שנתנו לו ארנק עם כסף, הלבישו לו על הבטן והוא נסע עם חבר להביא להם את הכסף. ויש שמה סיפור די מעניין על זה. \n\nפלג 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לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=269.23,272.16"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2028","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן אבל מה שאת יודעת. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=272.16,273.21"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2029","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"בעלי ז\"ל כן. הם באו מבית מאוד מאוד גדול באוקראינה ופעם הם נכנסו שם, חיילים, לא חיילים נו... \n\nפלג 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לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=325.2,326.21"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2034","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"יגלום. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=326.21,327.24"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2035","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"יגלום. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=327.24,329.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2036","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"בן כמה הוא היה כשזה קרה? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=329.0,331.02"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2037","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"הוא היה בן אולי עשרים, פחות עוד מפני שאחר כך שלחו אותו למשפחה, ניסו לברוח אבל אי אפשר היה לברוח. אז... הם היו ארבעה אחים יגלומים. כן? אז את כולם שלחו למקום אחר. והוא סיפר לנו הרבה על זה שבבית החזיקו למעלה באיזה מקום חסוי ככה, תה ואוכל ודברים כאלה. הם לא ידעו מה יהיה איתם ושלחו גם אוכל למשפחה שהייתה ברוסיה והילדים האלה, הגבורה של הילדים שהם לא פחדו לנסוע עם זה ברכבת עם רוסים. נסעו במקום יום אחד ארבעה חמישה ימים וככה הם ניצלו. ניצלו, חלק, זאת אומרת ארבעה אחים, חלק נסע למשפחה אחת, חלק למשפחה שנייה וככה הם ניצלו ונשארו בחיים, אבל זה לא החזיק הרבה זמן מפני שהם היו גם צריכים ללמוד, אז אחד שלחו לבריסל בלגיה ללמוד שמה. אחת לבוקרשט זה היה. אח אחד הגיע לבוקרשט עם עסקים אז הם החזיקו אותו בבית שהוא ימשיך ללמוד. הרביעי היה יותר מדי צעיר. בעלי תפסו בגבול, כאשר עוברים מאוקראינה לרוסיה ורצו להרוג אותו. אז אחד האוקראינים אמר, מה אתם רוצים להרוג אותו, זה ילד קטן. כי הוא היה קטן ורזה והיה נראה כמו ילד קטן. מה אתם רוצים, בשביל מה אתם רוצים להרוג אותו? תנו לו ללכת. אז הוא עבר בחזרה את הנהר איפה שעזרו לו לעבור לשם ולקחו אותו בחזרה, אבל היהודים ידעו שהוא חוזר אז הם חיכו לו ושוב לקחו אותו לבית יהודי והחזיקו אותו שם עד שיום אחד הוא ברח משם ואז הוא הגיע לדונצק ובדונצק האח הגדול, הבכור שלו היה שם כבר. הצליח לפתוח 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הנאצים כבר כמעט כאן, מה אתה רוצה להתלונן עכשיו? למי אתה רוצה להתלונן? אני מציע לך לעזוב. אז הוא מהמשטרה הלך הביתה. הוא קרא למנהל הבית חרושת שם ומי שהיה אחראי למחסן, מחסנים אני יודעת מה. אז אמרו לו... אז הוא אמר לאחראי שלו מנהל, אני מחר עוזב לפלסטינה, אתם תשלחו לי הכל לשם. כי הוא בינתיים כבר היה בארץ וקנה דירה כאן ב-35. הוא ידע שבונים את זה כבר, אבל הוא רצה שהכל יבוא לשמה. הבטיחו לו שיישלחו לו ובאמת שלחו לו, הכל הגיע. מה שהוא מצא זה היה כאן בתל אביב ב-35. הוא מצא בבית רק טלפון על הריצפה, הרהיטים עוד לא היו, שום דבר לא היה אבל הטלפון היה. נו לאט לאט הוא הסתדר. הוא ריהט את זה. לאט לאט באו כל הדברים מדונציק לתל אביב והתחילו חיים נורמלים. \n\nפלג 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לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=643.05,654.12"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2046","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מה שמו של אביך? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=654.12,655.22"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2047","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"שמואל חורש. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=655.22,657.12"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2048","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"שמואל חורש? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=657.12,658.23"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2049","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן ואימא פניה חורש. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=658.23,661.04"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2050","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ומאיזה, מה השורשים של המשפחה של אימא? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=661.04,666.14"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2051","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"גם כן מבסרביה באו, שם המשפחה היה נוסינקיס. נוסינקיס זה היה המשפחה אבל הם לא היו פעילים, הם היו מאוד שקטים ככה בלי פעילות. אימא למשל, כן הייתה ציונית, היא הייתה מעורבת בקרן קיימת. היא הייתה אחראית לנשף של קרן קיימת. האבא לאט לאט עבר גם כן לציונות ואחרי שהוא בחר את הבית מרקחת הציעו לו הרומנים, זה כבר היה רומניה אחר כך, שהוא יהיה מנהל בנק. ואז הוא התחיל קריירה אחרת והגוים מאוד מאוד התחשבו איתו. האמינו לו ונתנו לו כל מיני תפקידים לעשות והוא היה איש מאוד פעיל. הוא פיתח את הבנק בסרביה בכל בסרביה. אז האמינו לו עד כדי כך שעשו אותו מנהל כללי של בנק בסרביה בכל בסרביה, אבל הוא המשיך את החיים היהודים. הנה אמרתי קודם שהוא ואימא נסעו כל שנה לארץ ישראל. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=666.14,742.01"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2052","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן, זה אנחנו מדברים על תקופה של אחרי מלחמת העולם הראשונה. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=742.01,745.18"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2053","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=745.18,747.05"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2054","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ובמלחמה הוא גוייס? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=747.05,750.03"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2055","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן, יש גם שמה תמונה שלו במדים. בספר שלי, הוא גוייס מפני שמי שעבר אוניברסיטה וגמר כרוקח יש כאן תמונה שלו במדים. אתה תמצא את זה אחר כך \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=750.03,771.01"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2056","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"זה בהתחלה צריך להיות לא? \n\nרעיה 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יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=774.23,775.24"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2059","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא לא אני אראה לך, זה סבא גדול. זה סבא שלי אבא של אבא, וזה סבא גדול, אבא של זהו. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=775.24,791.1"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2060","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=791.1,792.11"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2061","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כאן יש תמונות מהבית ספר שלי, הנה כאן במדים אתה רואה? \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=792.11,796.23"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2062","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אני רוצה רגע לצלם את זה שנייה אחת. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=796.23,799.04"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2063","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"יש כאן במדים, כאן הוא במדים, מדים רומניים כבר. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=799.04,802.09"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2064","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=802.09,803.2"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2065","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"הוא היה, כולם מי שהיה עבד כרופא או בית מרקחת משהו. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=803.2,815.03"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2066","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז אבא זה... \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=815.03,817.12"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2067","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אימא הייתה יותר ציונית בוא נגיד, היא הייתה... עכשיו גם סבא וסבתא הם היו במובן מאליו עוזרים ליהודים, כי העסק שלהם התפתח יפה וסבתא הייתה זו שישבה בעסק ומכרה. העסק שהיה של עצים לבנייה. אז למרות שהיא הייתה קטנטונת היא ניהלה את העסק. סבא לא, סבא הסתובב בעיר לשאול מי צריך הלוואה, למי לא טוב, מי עני ובסוף הוא גם בנה בית אבות כי הוא ראה שזה נחוץ לשם וכאן יש סיפור מעניין. אני לאחרי המון שנים הייתי בברזיל בשביל ויצ\"ו ותמיד נתנו לי בוא נגיד צהריים ונאומים ומתנה. פתאום מביאים מתנה ואני תמיד פחדתי מהמתנות האלה, כי זה היה דבר גדול לסחוב לתל אביב משם, זה כבר היה אחרי שהייתי כאן. אז פתאום אני רואה על התמונה בעל העיתון שהזמין אותי לצהריים וסבא שלי, אז אני אומרת, איך אתה הגעת לסבא שלי? הוא אמר, אנחנו בנינו יחד את בית אבות. הם היו, גם היהודי הזה היה מבסרביה והם היו בידידות ובתמונה היה גם מנכ\"ל שלהם של העסק. אז היו כבר יהודים נסעו להיות יחד. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=817.12,920.23"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2068","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"הם כבר היו נשואים? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=920.23,924.17"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2069","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=924.17,925.2"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2070","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן, אבל הם הכירו בלימודים או ש? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=925.2,928.17"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2071","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אימא ואבא כן. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=928.17,928.17"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2072","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. אז מתי נולד, כמה ילדים יש ואיך זה, הסדר? \n\nרעיה 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יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=946.1,949.12"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2075","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אנחנו מדברים על 1915. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=949.12,953.17"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2076","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"חמש עשרה זה הילדה, הבת הראשונה שלכם? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=953.17,956.02"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2077","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן, כן. אבל אחר כך הם עזבו את רומניה והיא לא נסעה איתם כי היא לא רצתה לעזוב את בעלה, בעלה לא רצה לעזוב את ההורים. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=956.02,970.19"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2078","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אחותך? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=970.19,970.19"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2079","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=970.19,972.03"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2080","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"טוב, זה כבר גיל יותר מבוגר רגע, מתי את נולדת? \n\nרעיה 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לבית ספר התחלתי גם ללכת ביום ראשון לאוניברסיטה אז הרגשתי שיש אנטישמיות, כי אמרו לי, אני התיישבתי בשורה ראשונה אז בא סטודנט רומני ואמר ז'ידאויקה. ז'ידאויקה זה מילה מכוערת ליהודיה, תלכי ותשבי בספסל האחרון. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1058.18,1102.14"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2098","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אבל זה כבר ב-30 ומשהו \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1102.14,1104.08"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2099","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"זה היה ב... \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1104.08,1106.07"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"גיל 15, 16 מתי הולכים ל... זה גימנסיה או אוניברסיטה? \n\nרעיה 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יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1113.19,1114.13"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"בבית ספר גם כן הייתי תלמידה טובה, התחשבו איתי והיו לי ציונים טובים וזה לא היה מקרה של אחותי ז\"ל. היא לא הצליחה כל כך. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1114.13,1128.23"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"הבית ספר הראשון הוא יהודי? \n\nרעיה 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לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1160.17,1163.06"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"רגע, לפני זה, \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1163.06,1163.06"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. \n\nפלג 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העיר הגדולה, כן? אז שמה כבר ראיתי בתי ספר גדולים, והסטודנטים ותנועות נוער וכך הלאה. אבל, לא הייתה, אני לא יכולה להגיד שהיו לנו חיים ציוניים שלא נתנו לנו להיות, לא. אני רציתי גם קודם להגיד, זה היה... צרפתית כבר... מאוד נוח הכל וזה שהייתי שייכת למשפחה פחות או יותר עשירה וידועה, אז אני לא, לא פגשתי צרות. לא היו לי צרות. רק ביום הראשון לאוניברסיטה. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1388.06,1446.15"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז מה קורה אחרי היום הראשון באוניברסיטה, אחרי שאת מחליטה? \n\nרעיה 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הייתה עיר יהודית טובה עם חינוך ציוני. היות שאמרתי לך שכל הגדולים היו באים אלינו להרצות לפנינו. היה אולם טוינבהאלה כולם היו באים. ואז אבא וסבא, היות שסבא היה גם כן בארץ ישראל. שמה יש גם תמונה של סבא ואבא בארץ ישראל. החליטו להשפיע עלי שאני אסכים לנסוע לארץ ישראל, אבל אז היו צריכים ויזה, וזה לא קל היה לקבל. אז אבא לקח אותי לבוקרשט לקונסליה האנגלית, והיה לו קצת אדמה כאן. הוא פעם אחת בכל הנסיעות האלה, קנה בחיפה איזה חתיכת אדמה. אצל האנגלים זה היה מספיק כדי לתת ויזה. אז הסכמתי. אנחנו עשינו הסכם. אבא אמר, תסעי לשלושה חודשים, אם זה לא מוצא חן בעיניך, את יכולה לחזור. אמרתי בסדר. אבל כשהוא הביא אותי לאוניה, אני זוכרת ברומניה בקונסטנצה, עדיין בכיתי, אני רוצה הביתה, מה אתה עושה לי? למה אתה שולח אותי לאיזה מקום שאני לא מכירה את אף אחד? זה לא עזר לי. אבא שלח אותי, עם ההסכם הזה, שאחרי שלושה חודשים אני יכולה לחזור, אם אני לא מרוצה. אני הגעתי ב-3 לאפריל, 1900. 1900... \n\nפלג 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הוא שלח אותי בעצם למכרים שלהם, של ההורים שלי, שגם הם היו באים לבקר ברומניה. אז, זה היה כאילו החלפה כזו. טוב, אני הייתי קצת יותר שקטה, כי ידעתי שיש משפחה שתקבל אותי. באתי הנה, למחרת, מתל אביב נסעתי לירושלים, להירשם באוניברסיטה, זה היה 3 באפריל, 1900... \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1600.22,1661.09"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"תראי, אני אגיד לך, את אומרת שאבא, כשרצית לצאת, כשיחיאל ביקש ממך לצאת לארץ, הוא אמר את המשפט, התחילה מלחמה. אז זה חייב להיות אחרי ספטמבר 39'. \n\nרעיה 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יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1701.1,1701.1"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1701.1,1703.04"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז עכשיו, רק רגע, אני רוצה רגע לבדוק. המסע הזה של האונייה, אז יש לך ויזה, כמה זמן זה נמשך? זה... \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1703.04,1714.22"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מה? לנסוע \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1714.22,1715.23"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"זה בהפלגה אחת או שמחליפים? \n\nרעיה 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יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1719.08,1719.08"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. בארבעה ימים הייתי כאן. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1719.08,1723.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ועברית את לא יודעת? \n\nרעיה 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בבית אורן, על יד חיפה. והוא הגיע, בחרו בו כמוכתר. מה קרה לו? אחרי זה הייתה תאונת אווירון בטבריה והאווירון נפל והרג כמה אנשים והוא היה בין אלה שנהרגו. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1764.09,1817.16"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ב-56' בטקס. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1817.16,1819.1"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן כן כן כן. אז אחר כך האח שלו שלחו בסטרומה. זה אתה יודע מה שקרה עם סטרומה, אז גם הוא נעלם. האח השלישי גם כן קרה איזה קטסטרופה. המשפחה הזאתי עברה גיהנום, אבל הם עמדו בשלהם. עברית, זהו. אני פעם סיפרתי אצל גולדה יותר מאוחר הרבה יותר מאוחר סיפור של משפחת פיכמן, למה? כי מאותו היום שהייתי צריכה להביא משלחת מקנדה, נשים מקנדה מויצ\"ו לגולדה היה בעיתון שבאותו היום נהרג בחור אחד שעמד בגולן וכדור אחד הרג אותו וזה היה הבן האחרון, פיכמן. אז אני אז אמרתי לגולדה, אם תרשי לי במקום להציג את כל החברות שלי כיוון שזה ייקח הרבה זמן, אני רוצה לספר על מה שקרה היום וסיפרתי איך הבחור הזה הרביעי נהרג באותו היום. הוספתי לה, אם תוכלי, הסבתא שלו חיה אם את יכולה לכתוב לה מכתב תנחומים זו מצווה גדולה מאוד. לקבל ממך מכתב האישה הזאתי בטח היא לא תתגבר על האסון הזה, אבל זה ייתן לה הרבה. למחרת בבוקר צלצלה מזכירה של גולדה שגם את השם ידעתי ושאלה אותי איפה היא, הסבתא, אז אמרתי לה איפה ואחר כך שנים אחרי זה פגשתי בחורה שאמרה לי, את רעיה חויריש? אמרתי כן, אז אמרתי, את סיפרת לגולדה זה וזה וזה? אמרתי כן. אז אני רוצה את הכתובת מפני שאני מכירה את הסבתא. וגולדה שלחה לה מכתב. כי היא הראתה לי את התשובה. זה היה ממש, ברוסית אומרים \"סקאזקה\" סיפור, כן זה קשה להאמין, אבל מפני שקרה כל זה האבא ירד מדעתו ולא הכיר את אף אחד, רק את אבא שלי. אבא שלי היה מבקר אצלו, הוא זכר אותו. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=1819.1,1968.23"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מה שמו? את זוכרת את שמו הפרטי של האבא של פיכמן? \n\nרעיה 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איתו. נו אז הם כבר עברו כל הגיהנומים... היו בצ'רנוביץ' בגטו ושמה נולדה גם הילדה שלהם. זה כבר התחלת הצרות שהיו לנו אחר כך. היא הגיעה הנה אחרי חמש שנים רק. מי שהביא אותה אז היה שייקה טרכטנברג, אתה פעם שמעת ממנו? \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=2294.12,2467.09"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"שמעתי את השם הזה... \n\nרעיה 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לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=2666.16,2734.1"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2239","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"בית מטבחיים. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=2734.1,2735.18"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2240","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"בית מטבחיים, שמה תלו את כולם. \n\nפלג 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לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=2962.17,2963.19"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2271","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"רימל, לא נורא. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=2963.19,2968.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2272","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אצלנו האווירה בבית הייתה מאוד אופטימית. לא יודעת למה, ככה. אז כולם אהבו לבוא אלינו. שדאגו אמרתי אין דאגה, זה יסתדר. \n\nפלג 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לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=2981.04,2986.2"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2275","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"זה הצפון של אז. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=2986.2,2988.09"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2276","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן ושהוא מצא שמה טלפון על הרצפה זה הכניסו לו. ואחר כך באו רהיטים וכל היתר. חברה שלא כל כך ידעה על האסון שקורה באירופה, ממש לא. היינו הולכים הרבה לקולנוע, היינו משחקים קלפים, היינו נוסעים לטיולים. היו חיים מאוד נוחים, נעימים. זה לא כמו היום. היום זה משהו אחר. היום אף אחד כבר לא מכיר אף אחד, כמעט. אז לא ידענו מי, מה, מו. היינו בסך הכול בכל פלסטינה 600 אלף יהודים, כן. אז כמה היו בתל אביב? \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=2988.09,3040.141"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2277","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אלף. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3040.141,3041.201"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2278","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אלף. אוקיי זה לא כל כך הרבה. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3041.201,3045.14"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2279","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן זה לא הרבה. אז מה שאת מתארת תמונת מצב, זוגות צעירים שידם משגת נמצאים אנשי תרבות, הורים צעירים. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3045.14,3060.12"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2280","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן, אבל כולנו היינו שייכים או להגנה או לאחת התנועות האלה. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3060.12,3070.06"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2281","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ואת אישית? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3070.06,3071.18"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2282","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אני הייתי בהגנה. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3071.18,3072.2"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2283","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"את כבר אימא? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3072.2,3072.2"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2284","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3072.2,3074.06"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2285","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז איך זה קורה? מה זה אומר? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3074.06,3076.02"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2286","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"זה אומר ששלחו אותי מטעם הגנה לצפון לעשות קשר בין הקיבוצים, עם פתקאות, עם דברים, אנחנו צריכים זה. נשק אנחנו צריכים זה ובעלי היה שייך להגנה אבל זה מחלקה אחרת. הוא אפילו זוכר, הוא מספר שהוא לקח פעם בטעות 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ספר קיים זה בית ספר שעכשיו הוא ביפו. איך קוראים לבית ספר הזה? \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3106.22,3131.08"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2289","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אבני? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3131.08,3131.08"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2290","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אבני. אז אני רצתי מפרישמן עם כל החומר שהיה לי על הידיים הביתה לראות מה קרה לתינוק וקצת נבהלנו. אז החלטנו לצאת לרעננה. לקחנו בית קטן ברעננה. פשוט כדי לעבור את התקופה הזאתי וברעננה מצאנו בית ששכרנו והילדה שאלה איך קוראים לילד תמיד את אומרת בוב'לה, בוב'לה, בוא ילד. אמרתי אלחנן אמרתי. אלחנן ילד כזה קטן שם כזה ארוך. תקראי לו אלן הצעיר. זה היה שם של הסבא שלי. טוב ואחרי המלחמה \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3131.08,3177.07"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2291","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"רגע אבל אני רוצה לשמוע עוד על התקופה הזו. לגבי באותה תקופה במלחמה, עכשיו כשההורים באים, \n\nרעיה 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יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3187.18,3187.18"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2294","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"השכרנו להם דירה המצב לא היה כל כך טוב. זה כבר לא היה המצב של צ'רנוביץ' שהכל היה לנו והכל \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3187.18,3200.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2295","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"הם הצליחו להביא כסף? \n\nרעיה 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יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3282.09,3285.09"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2314","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ריבה וג'לי וכל מיני דברים כאלה. העיקר זה ריבה וג'לי. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3285.09,3295.22"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2315","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"יש פה תמונות של המפעל? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3295.22,3297.12"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2316","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3297.12,3298.19"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2317","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3298.19,3299.21"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2318","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא, אבל באותו הזמן התחילו גם עסיס. בית חרושת עסיס של בז'רנו. בית חורשת גם כן אקא של גרטנר. גרטנר. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3299.21,3313.24"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2319","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כל אלה זה אוכל את מתכוונת? \n\nרעיה 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לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3338.23,3374.12"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2325","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3374.12,3375.18"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2326","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז לא ידענו מה שהולך באירופה. לא ידענו מה שיודעים בסוכנות בירושלים, שום דבר. זה לא עובר דרכנו, אבל מהעיתון ידענו שקורה זה וזה וזה. \n\nפלג 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לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3405.16,3406.17"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2331","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אלן, אלן, אוקיי \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3406.17,3408.03"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2332","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אל חנן, אלן. הילדה הזאתי עשתה מזה שם קצר אלחנן. \n\nפלג 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לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3415.1,3429.21"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2335","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3429.21,3430.24"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2336","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז פעם עצר אותי איזה קצין אנגלי ואמר, מה את עושה פה? אמרתי, אני מבקרת חברים. איילת השחר, שמה הייתי גרה. היום זה יפהפה של מקום, זה היה אז לכלוך ובוץ והמיטה הייתה עומדת על הבוץ, באוהל אל תשאלו. אז הוא התחיל להתווכח איתי. הוא ראה אותי יותר מדי פעמים לעלות ולרדת ולך תספר לו שאני עושה קשר שם, לא. אז שיצאנו, נסענו הביתה משם. אז נתנו לי כמה בחורים של הקיבוצים שיסעו איתי באוטו. עוצרים אותנו והבחורים פחדו מוות. האוטו היה שלי, של הבית חרושת. אז החזיקו אותי עם הבחורים כמה שעות. אמרתי תביטו לי יש ילד קטן בבית, אני צריכה להודיע הביתה שאני כאן. אז הם נתנו לי להתקשר הביתה. למי שייך האוטו? בית חרושת ארדי. תירוץ טוב, אבל לא נתנו כל כך בקלות. בשש נתנו לנו לנסוע. במקום לנסוע דרך חיפה לתל אביב, אני נסעתי לטול כרם נו אז זה היה ברוך, לא היה כל כך נעים. אבל זה לא הפריע לי זה היה \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3430.24,3533.03"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2337","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"זה בעצם היה ההגנה גייסה את האמצעים של המפעל לצרכים? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3533.03,3538.16"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2338","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא, לא, לא, הם גייסו הרבה אנשים שהיו מוכנים. היו לי גם חברות שמה שהיינו נפגשים יחד. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3538.16,3546.19"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2339","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"עכשיו אני רוצה לשאול אותך, בחברה שלכם \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3546.19,3548.17"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2340","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3548.17,3551.01"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2341","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"בתקופה הזאת איך אתם רואים את כל הנושא של המאבק בבריטים, של האצ\"ל ושל הלח\"י? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3551.01,3556.06"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2342","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז תראה, \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3556.06,3557.1"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2343","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"את זוכרת שרצחו את יאיר? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3557.1,3559.1"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2344","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"בוודאי, בוודאי. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3559.1,3560.13"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2345","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"בפברואר 42'? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3560.13,3561.15"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2346","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"בוודאי, בוודאי. לא היו לי אז מכירים או ידידים כמו אחר כך היו לי שמירים וכל חבר'ה האלה, שאגב שמיר הלוא היה אחראים לפיצוץ בקינג דויד. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3561.15,3579.02"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2347","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא, שמיר לא, שמיר היה בלח\"י. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3579.02,3583.12"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2348","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן, אז מי זה עשה? \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3583.12,3584.22"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2349","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"זה האצ\"ל. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3584.22,3585.22"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2350","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אצ\"ל, אז אני יום לפני הפיצוץ לקחתי את אחותי ז\"ל לשם לנוח כי היה נורא חם כאן בתל אביב. ואמרתי לה בואי ניסע לקינג דויד זה מלון נהדר, קריר, יהיה לנו טוב שם. היא אומרת בסדר. נו, נסענו בבוקר לקינג דיוויד, ישבנו בפינה על יד הפסנתר אני לא אשכח את זה, עם החברה שלי שבאה על אונייה, ספרלינג, שפיגל, ופתאום יצא המנהל בבית מלון קינג דיוויד, שמו היה, לא זוכרת, והוא אמר באנגלית, כולם לחדרים. אנחנו לא ידענו למה, אז התחלנו לעלות. החדר שלנו היה בקומה ראשונה והיינו צריכים לעלות כמה מדרגות. איך שהגענו לדלת בקומה הראשונה, טראח, פיצוץ. מזה אחותי ז\"ל קיבלה היסטריקה ממש, בגלל המחלה שהיה לה והיא חלתה מאוד, ואחרי חודש היא נפטרה. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3585.22,3672.02"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2351","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"רגע, אז את היית במלון בפיצוץ? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3672.02,3674.18"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2352","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3674.18,3675.21"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2353","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא כל יום אני פוגש מישהו שהיה במלון בפיצוץ. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3675.21,3677.23"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2354","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"בבקשה. אני אמרתי את זה לפדרמן הרבה פעמים, אתה הכל רושם כל מיני משפחה, שם משפחה אני רואה בעיתון שלכם, אנחנו ישבנו שמה, היינו בזמן, ואי אפשר. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3677.23,3692.16"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2355","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לפדרמן? למה לפדרמן? לא הבנתי. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3692.16,3695.1"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2356","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"הם כבר היו בעלי המלון. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3695.1,3697.16"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2357","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"רגע, איזה פדרמן? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3697.16,3700.08"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2358","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כסיל, כסיל. המשפחה הזאתי מפורסמת, כסיל. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3700.08,3704.09"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2359","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"הם היו אז בעלי המלון? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3704.09,3706.03"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2360","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא, הם היו בעלי קטידה הקטנצ'יק... \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3706.03,3710.1"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2361","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3710.1,3710.1"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2362","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"של ארבעה חדרים, חמישה חדרים. בעלי היה צוחק תמיד שהוא היה בא לארץ ישראל הוא היה גר שמה, ועכשיו כסיל פדרמן הוא בעל בתי מלון. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3710.1,3723.08"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2363","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז רגע, אז באמת מי היו הבעלים של מלון המלך דוד כשזה פוצץ? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3723.08,3727.21"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2364","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"זה אני לא זוכרת. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3727.21,3729.07"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2365","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אף פעם לא, זה היה פרטי בסופו של דבר. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3729.07,3731.2"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2366","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן אבל... \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3731.2,3731.2"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2367","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"הצבא הבריטי שילם כסף כדי להיות שם. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3731.2,3734.18"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2368","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן, אבל זה אני לא זוכרת. אני יודעת שאז מטעם ההגנה כבר הייתי ממונה על בתי מלון לשמוע על השיחות שלהם בין אנגלית ואני יודעת מה עוד דיברו שמה. והיינו רושמים את השיחות. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3734.18,3750.13"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2369","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3750.13,3753.08"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2370","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"זה היה העבודה שלנו. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3753.08,3758.08"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2371","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"רגע, סימן פה. שנייה, אני רוצה להבין כי העדות שלך היא חשובה, \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3758.08,3765.03"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2372","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. \n\nפלג 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לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3771.07,3772.1"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2375","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"את שמעת גם את האזעקה? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3772.1,3773.14"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2376","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא. שמענו רק שמישהו ירה. \n\nפלג 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היה להגיע לאף מקום, לתל אביב לא היה קשר, לטלפן אפילו לתל אביב היה קשה מאוד, היות שהלכנו הביתה להדי שפיגל אחרי שהיא באה לשתות איתנו קפה היא כבר אחר כך לקחה אותנו הביתה. אי אפשר לקחת טרמפ לתל אביב, לא היה עם מה. אז אנחנו גרנו אצלה בלילה ולמחרת בבוקר הודענו להורים שאנחנו כאן ואנחנו בבית פרטי אבל אנחנו ברגע שנוכל לצאת אנחנו נבוא הביתה. אבל השוק היה די גדול. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3780.1,3843.16"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2381","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז רגע, בעצם העדות שלך שהמנהל מזהיר את האנשים. \n\nרעיה 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לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3852.16,3881.2"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2385","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז אחותך היא... \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3881.2,3883.08"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2386","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"היא נפטרה לפני חודש. \n\nפלג 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יגיד משהו, שהוא יעשה. לא, הוא היה סגור, הוא לא היה מדבר, שום דבר. הוא לא ענה לי, לא אמר לי לא כן ולא לא וככה זה נשאר. הוא רק שמע מה שאני אמרתי לו, זה הכל. אנחנו אחרי הבית חולים לקחנו אותה לבית מלון, לקחנו אותה בחזרה לבית חולים, להדסה ושם אמרו, זה התפשט על כל הגוף שלה, אין לכם מה לעשות. נו, אז היא נשארה בבית חולים ואחר כך היא נפטרה שם. אבל בעצם אתה מזכיר לי דבר אחר. הקייטדן הקטן שהיה על שפת הים, לא על שפת הים, בין הירקון והחול שם, זה היה שייך לויצ\"ו. הדסה סמואל שהייתה אז יושבת ראש רצתה למכור את זה כי היא רצתה את הכסף לויצ\"'ו, והיא מכרה את זה, למי? לפדרמן. היא מכרה את זה ב-4,000 לירות, זה לא סלחנו לה אף פעם. ואחר כך קנינו עוד חלק, היה צריף ששייך, אני לא יודעת למי זה היה שייך. חצי היה של ויצ\"ו והחצי של ועד למען החייל. ברחוב הירקון היה צריף גדול שהיה יורד עד החול, עד שפת הים. ואני אמרתי לו פעם אחת, אתה יודע מה תקנה את זה, אנחנו לא צריכים את זה, אנחנו צריכים כסף. הוא קנה, הוא גם קנה מועד למען החייל והוא התחיל לבנות את המלון דן. זה פרטים שלא יודעים. וכולם שמעו שאני קיבלתי מאה אלף לירות אז מפדרמן בשביל החלק הזה זה, חשבו שאני גאון, אבל קיבלתי. כי הוא נורא רצה את זה. וככה הוא התחיל לבנות את מלון דן. טוב נו, אז מה. היו הרבה דברים מוזרים אז, אבל דבר אחד אני לא מבינה עד היום. היינו כמה שהיינו אבל השקט שהיה לנו, הלא אכפתיות, אז יש מלחמה באירופה, אז מה? לא מספיק ידענו מהשואה, לא מהסוכנות מירושלים לא הגיע עד אלינו פרטים של השואה. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=3886.21,4095.23"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2389","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"את אומרת את זה כי את חושבת שהסוכנות כן ידעה? \n\nרעיה 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לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4114.02,4184.16"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2393","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מתי התחלת לעבוד בסוכנות? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4184.16,4187.08"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2394","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ב-36. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4187.08,4192.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2395","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא 30, ב-36 עוד היית באירופה, לא. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4192.0,4195.12"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2396","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ב-46. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4195.12,4195.1246"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2397","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":", רגע אז זהו זה התקופה, זה מעניין, רגע. מלון המלך דוד זה קיץ '46, היה חם לאחותך. אז ב-46 בקיץ את עובדת בסוכנות? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4195.1246,4212.16"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2398","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4212.16,4214.21"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2399","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז אחרי זה את מתחילה לעבוד? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4214.21,4216.16"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2400","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. לא לעבוד. זאת אומרת הייתה רבקה זיו, היא נפטרה. אני ביקשתי משרת שיתנו את המקום לרוזה גינוסר שהייתה יושבת ראש הבאה בתור אחרי רבקה זיו. אז הוא אמר שהוא לא יכול. כי המקום שלה, היא לא נבחרה, היא רק הוזמנה כי רבקה זיו אישיות יהודית-אנגלית, לא לא, גם לא עלה על דעתי איך לשאול. דווקא דיברנו הרבה על עלייה והרבה, כל הצרות שהיו אז בסוכנות אני הכרתי כבר, כבר הייתי בתוך העניינים. אבל למה זה, לא שאלתי אף פעם. למה? זה לא ייתכן שכמה היינו בתל אביב? שישים אלף, פחות. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4216.16,4276.13"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2401","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא, זה בארבעים, לא אולי היו יותר לא יודע, מתוך כל ה-600? אולי, 60 בטוח. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4276.13,4283.16"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2402","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"יחד עם רמת גן אולי. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4283.16,4285.07"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2403","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"יכול להיות. \n\nרעיה 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יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4318.05,4322.02"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2408","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא, עם האוטו! האוטו של, של המשרד, של ויצ\"ו. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4322.02,4327.2"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2409","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ואת נוהגת? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4327.2,4328.21"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2410","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4328.21,4331.1"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2411","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"זה חתיכת נסיעה בימים האלה. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4331.1,4332.23"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2412","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. הייתי חוזרת מהקונגרסים הציוניים ב-5 בבוקר, ב-4 בבוקר. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4332.23,4341.02"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2413","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מה זאת אומרת הקונגרסים הציוניים? \n\nרעיה 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יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4346.15,4347.18"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2416","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"נו אז כל 4 שנים היו נוסעים. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4347.18,4351.14"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2417","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"רגע אז הקונגרס ב-46. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4351.14,4353.07"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2418","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"הישיבות היו תמיד ביום ראשון, יום ראשון היינו עולים עם הנהג או לבד לישיבת הסוכנות. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4353.07,4361.19"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2419","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מה התפקיד שלך? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4361.19,4363.12"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2420","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"זהו, זה מעניין. שאלה טובה. היות שאני הייתי מתנדבת ולא כי באתי ולא כי ביקשתי משכורת, אז אני הייתי בוא נגיד יועצת. היות שאני הייתי מייצגת רבע מיליון נשים של ויצ\"ו. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4363.12,4385.11"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2421","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כבר אז? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4385.11,4386.13"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2422","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן בטח. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4386.13,4387.12"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2423","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"רגע. אז את מגיעה לסוכנות בשם ויצ\"ו? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4387.12,4390.13"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2424","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"בוודאי. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4390.13,4391.1"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2425","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז בואי נחבר קודם מתי את מתחברת לויצ\"ו? איך זה קורה? \n\nרעיה 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יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4422.11,4425.06"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2432","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. לי זה היה לעזור לנשים. זה היה תפקיד שלנו. התחלנו לבנות מוסדות ילדים, הפדרציות נתנו כסף, אנחנו בנינו. לא היה תפקיד מי יודע מה, אבל יותר צדקה. זהו. ואחר כך לאט לאט התקדמתי בלהיות חברת הנהלה, גם לא הייתה לי זכות הצבעה, זה אני לחמתי, אני אני אמרתי כמה שנים אני אשב כאן בלי זכות הצבעה? רבקה זיו היא ישבה בלי זכות הצבעה, רוזה גינוסר בלי זכות הצבעה, אבל אני דורשת זכות הצבעה, אני לא מוכנה ככה לשבת. המפלגות לא רצו לתת לי. למה? היות שהיינו אל-מפלגתיות אז פחדו שאנחנו נצביע פעם עם זה, פעם עם זה, יהיה להם לא נוח. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4425.06,4485.07"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2433","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז זהו ויצ\"ו הוא ארגעון אל-מפלגתי? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4485.07,4487.14"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2434","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4487.14,4488.15"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2435","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"והבסיס שלו זה בקנדה? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4488.15,4491.05"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2436","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא. כאן. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4491.05,4493.02"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2437","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כאן. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4493.02,4493.02"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2438","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"בארץ כן. קודם היה לונדון אחר כך כאן. אז אני ביקשתי זכות הצבעה. זה לא נוח, הם לא רצו, הם פחדו ממני, איך אני אצביע פעם בשביל הימין, פעם בשביל שמאל. אמרתי אני לא מצביעה, אני מבטיחה לכם, אני גם הלאה לא אצביע, אבל אני חייבת לשבת לדעת שיש לי זכות הצבעה. מה אני יושבת סתם? אז לואי פינקוס מדרום אפריקה היה מאוד חכם, והוא היה ציוני כזה, והוא ידע שיש ויצ\"ו בדרום אפריקה הייתה ויצ\"ו, אז הוא אמר תראי אני אעשה לך ישיבה עם כל נציגי המפלגות, שמונה, תשעה, אני יודעת, תשבי איתם, אם תצליחי להשפיע עליהם שאת לא תצביעי לא ימין ולא שמאל ולא מה שלא טוב להם, אלא תהיי למה שחשוב, כן? איך אומרים? אז הם יתנו לך זכות הצבעה. טוב, עשינו ישיבה ואני רעדתי כמו לא יודעת מה, לבד לשבת עם שמונה נציגים גברים של מפלגות. מי פחד הכי הרבה ממני היו הדתיים. למה? אני לא יודעת. הם, אני כן יודעת. רוזה גינוסר הייתה תמיד אנטי דתי, אז היא ישבה לפניי. הייתה הצבעה להביא עלייה והיא אמרה, דעתי לא להביא לא זקנים ולא חולים. זה היה אידאולוגיה שלה. רוזה גינוסר הייתה כלתו של אחד העם, כן? אז אולי היא למדה על זה אצל בעלה, אני לא יודעת. אבל אז הם לא רצו לתת לויצ\"ו זכות הצבעה, אם הם שמעו שאישה אחת שתשב בישיבה בהנהלה תגיד שלא זקנים ולא חולים אז איזה מין אישה זו? איזה פילוסופיה זה? אז אמרתי אני לא רוצה, אני דורשת זכות הצבעה אתם צריכים להאמין לי. ואם תתפסו אותי פעם שאני כן אצביע ושל מי שאתם לא רוצים, תזרקו אותי מהנהלה. ולואי פינקוס הכיר אותי טוב מאוד, הוא ידע שאם אני מבטיחה, ככה זה יהיה. ובאמת ככה אף פעם לא, אתה יודע כמה שנים ישבתי? בסוכנות מ-36 עד 64. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4493.02,4649.03"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2439","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מ-46, כן מ-46. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4649.03,4649.03"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2440","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מ-46. כן, ישבתי יותר מ-30 שנה שם, לא הצבעתי אף פעם, לא, נמנעתי. או שהייתה הצבעה יצאתי לעשות משהו אני לא יודעת מה. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4649.03,4663.1"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2441","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז רגע, עכשיו אני רוצה להבין לגבי העניין הזה של 1946 תמונת מצב, מה זה אומר הסוכנות היהודית? אז את מגיעה לסוכנות כדמות בכירה בויצ\"ו, כנציגת ויצ\"ו. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4663.1,4677.17"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2442","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן, יושבת ראש. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4677.17,4678.22"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2443","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"יושבת ראש, את יושבת ראש ויצ\"ו ב-46? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4678.22,4683.08"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2444","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"תראה, אני באתי מפני שרבקה זיו הייתה קודם, אחר כך רוזה גינוסר. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4683.08,4689.2"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2445","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"רבקה זיו פרשה? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4689.2,4691.23"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2446","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא, היא נפטרה. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4691.23,4693.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2447","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"היא נפטרה. זה בית רבקה שיש בפתח תקווה, זה על שמה, נכון? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4693.0,4697.03"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2448","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. אבל יש בצפת בית חולים שספיר בנה לכבודה, ולא מזכירים את זה. קוראים לזה זיו. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4697.03,4706.09"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2449","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"נכון. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4706.09,4707.09"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2450","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"זיו, זי איי וי, למה? זה רבקה זיו. ובעלה היה מאוד ג'נטלמן גדול, אני ישבתי ככה בשורה ראשונה כי הייתי חייבת להיות שמה, אז הוא אמר, בואי ושבי פה במקום בקי. אנחנו היינו מאוד בידידות בקי זיו ואני. עליתי וישבתי שם אבל ככה זה היה היחסים. לא היה להם אמון אלינו, הסוכנות. אבל מה, המספר שלנו, שהיה אז 250 אלף, זה כן מצא חן בעיניהם, זה ההסתדרות הציונית \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4707.09,4742.16"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2451","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מאתיים חמישים אלף איפה? איפה בארץ? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4742.16,4744.08"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2452","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא לא, בכל העולם, בעולם. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4744.08,4744.08"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2453","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא, בעולם. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4744.08,4746.01"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2454","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"היום זה כבר אין, היום נפל המספר. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4746.01,4749.07"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2455","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מאתיים חמישים אלף נשים היו חברות בויצ\"ו \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4749.07,4752.05"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2456","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4752.05,4752.05"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2457","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ב-1946. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4752.05,4754.12"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2458","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4754.12,4754.12"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2459","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מדהים. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4754.12,4756.14"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2460","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא לא, האמת הוא שאף פעם לא היה מאתיים חמישים אלף. זה אחת הנשים בויצ\"ו ארצית עשתה מעשה התחכמות ואמרה שהיא עושה, ספרה את בדיוק כמה יש בסניפים כאן בארץ חברות, ועשתה מזה מאה אלף. אף פעם לא היו מאה אלף בארץ. אני עכשיו לפני שבועיים רק אמרתי את זה, אבל אמרתי תשתקו כי אחרת זה יתחיל מחדש כל הבלאגן שהיה. יש לנו מאה שבעים בוא נגיד, זה מספיק. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4756.14,4791.03"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2461","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אוקיי. אז מה, עכשיו 1946, אגב הסיפור הזה, רק לחזור רגע למלון המלך דוד האם את יודעת, הרי זה היה בעצם סוף תנועת המרי. התקופה הזאת. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4791.03,4806.16"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2462","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן, כן. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4806.16,4807.17"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2463","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ובעצם הסוכנות היה לה תפקיד משמעותי כאן כי בתקופה הזו, כשאת הגעת את הגעת אולי אחרי, היו עצורים כל, רוב ראשי הסוכנות, כולל שרת בעיקר. כששרת היה עצור, את כבר היית בסוכנות? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4807.17,4822.18"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2464","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. הוא היה יושב ראש שלי הראשון. אבל הוא ישב כבר בבית, הוא כבר היה חולה. הוא ישב בבית והישיבות היו אצלו בבית. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4822.18,4832.03"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2465","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא, אבל כשהוא היה בכלא? \n\nרעיה 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יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4835.18,4838.15"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2468","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"משהו כזה, כן. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4838.15,4842.24"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2469","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"את מכירה את כל העניין הזה שהיה ויכוח שהסוכנות, שהגנה לא לקחה אחריות, שהם גם היו חלק מהעניין? \n\nרעיה 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נכנסה עם מייטרל, קיש היה שמה, מייטרל זה הממונה על כל אחיות, והוציאו אותה ממש אחד ואחד, הכניסו למוסד אם וילד, עד שהחליטו זה קטן, זה לא הולך, צריכים לבנות משהו גדול. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=4964.09,5000.03"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2489","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ושם עם האמהות האלה \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=5000.03,5002.12"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2490","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"רגע אחד, עכשיו אני נזכרת את השנה, 48 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דרום אפריקאי. והייתה ישיבה שם עם ראש העיר, מי זה היה אז ראש העיר? מי היה ראש העיר ב-48? לבנון? לא. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=5019.13,5048.15"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2493","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מודה שאני לא יודע. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=5048.15,5051.07"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2494","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"טוב. אז הם יצאו מהישיבה וצעקו זה ילד! זה ילד! זאת אומרת הצליחו לקבל רישיון לבנות מוסד אם וילד. זה 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יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=5175.12,5175.12"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2519","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מאוד מעניינת. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=5175.12,5177.19"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2520","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ולמדתי כמה דברים. \n\nרעיה 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יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=5180.1419,5184.07"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2523","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן, אני שמחה שכתבתי כי היום זה גם כן שכחתי. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=5184.07,5189.06"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2524","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן. טוב אז בעצם את בימים האלה אחר כך שיהיו שכל הנושא של הכרזת המדינה, לפני הישיבות של לפני ההכרזה, את עדה להם במסגרת התפקיד שלך? לא. \n\nרעיה 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יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=5226.2,5230.08"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2533","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא שפרינצק לא, אבל אלמוגי למשל, הוא היה שותה אלכוהול בזמן הישיבות, אבל היו מכסים את הספר עם משהו כדי שלא ירגישו שזה אלכוהול. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=5230.08,5241.01"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2534","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מה את אומרת? \n\nרעיה 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יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=5271.21,5277.11"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2543","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אני לא הייתי שמה, רבקה זיו הייתה. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=5277.11,5280.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2544","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מי? רבקה זיו הייתה \n\nרעיה 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לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=5292.11,5319.01"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2550","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז רגע, את, שנייה רגע זה מעניין אותי. רגע, את אומרת שבעצם העובדה שהיה ריק זה כבר היה חשוד? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=5319.01,5330.2"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2551","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אף אחד לא אמר לנו מי, מה, מו. כלום, היה ריק. אנחנו ישבנו ארבע נשים, שלוש נשים ליד השולחן, על יד הפסנתר, והפיצוץ היה בצד השני של האולם. זהו, אף אחד לא בא. לו לא היה יוצא מהחדר שלו שם של המשרד ואומר, כולם לחדרים שלכם, לא היינו יודעים גם שום דבר. זה מה שהיה. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=5330.2,5362.21"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2552","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מי הייתה האישה השלישית אתכם? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=5362.21,5364.21"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2553","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"הדי שפיגל, זאת שבאה איתי על האונייה אמרתי לך. \n\nפלג 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לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=5428.18,5428.18"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2562","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן כן. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=5428.18,5429.22"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2563","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ולי היו אנגלים באוטו שהייתי צריכה לקחת ממקום למקום והם נורא ואמרו לי את לא לוקחת להראות להם את האווירון הזה, זה אסור. בסדר. אבל כשהגענו ליפו התחננו לפני. תראי לנו רק איפה זה נפל. נו נסעתי ראו וזהו וחזרנו. ריינולד זה היה שמו. היה עיתונאי בשם ריינולד שיכור כמו אני לא יודעת מה. יש לי הספר שלו כאן. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=5429.22,5465.02"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2564","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"הוא היה אמריקאי? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=5465.02,5466.24"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2565","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא, אני לא יודעת, אני לא זוכרת. היה אנגלי או אמריקאי? הספר שלו יש לי. \n\nפלג 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לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=5477.23,5488.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2568","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אוקיי רגע עוד אני רוצה להקליט מה שם ה...? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=5488.0,5491.0"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2569","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"המבורגר. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=5491.0,5492.17"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2570","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"המבורגר, זה משפחה ישראלית? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=5492.17,5494.15"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2571","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא לא לא, הוא היה ממוצא אני חושב גרמני. אני חושבת, אני לא בטוחה. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=5494.15,5500.19"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2572","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"משפחת המבורגר. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=5500.19,5502.1"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2573","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אבל המבורגר היה בטח השם. זה גם צריך להיות בספר כתוב. \n\nפלג 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לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=5513.08,5516.06"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2576","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז רגע על זה אני רוצה לקבל הקדשה. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=5516.06,5519.06"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2577","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ברצון. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=5519.06,5531.14"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2578","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"איפה העט שלי? \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=5531.14,5533.07"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2579","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אין דבר נעשה את זה פעם הבאה. \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=5533.07,5536.16"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2580","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"רגע אני רק אמצא עט. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=5536.16,5538.04"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2581","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"יש לך עט? \n\nפלג לוי: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=5538.04,5539.21"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2582","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"תודה רבה. \n\nרעיה יגלום: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=5539.21,5542.16"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252/transcript/48782/annotation/2583","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז זה כבר יהיה שלך.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/69804/file/185252#t=5542.16,5551.48"}]}]}]}