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אבל...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89539/file/185402#t=996.44,998.4"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89539/file/185402/transcript/42701/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מתי השביעו אותך?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89539/file/185402#t=999.2,1001.12"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89539/file/185402/transcript/42701/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אני מעריך...\n-היית בן 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ה-300?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89539/file/185402#t=2598.68,2601.44"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89539/file/185402/transcript/42701/annotation/569","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מתוך ה-300.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89539/file/185402#t=2601.52,2603.04"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89539/file/185402/transcript/42701/annotation/570","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ואז משרד החוץ עשה שלב ב' של 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לירושלים.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89539/file/185402#t=2769.68,2771.48"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89539/file/185402/transcript/42701/annotation/605","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"נכון.\n-ו... כמה מנה אז משרד החוץ?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89539/file/185402#t=2771.56,2774.76"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89539/file/185402/transcript/42701/annotation/606","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מחלקת המזרח התיכון, כמה אנשים?\n-כמה 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אנשים.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89539/file/185402#t=2780.68,2782.4"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89539/file/185402/transcript/42701/annotation/609","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא הרבה. ומה שאני רוצה לספר,\nזה שאני הייתי שם תקופה יחסית קצרה,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89539/file/185402#t=2782.48,2789.52"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89539/file/185402/transcript/42701/annotation/610","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כי באיזשהו שלב,\nנדמה לי שבראש השנה 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מטושטש...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89539/file/185402#t=2799.8,2802.16"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89539/file/185402/transcript/42701/annotation/613","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"משה שרת נהג עוד, בזמן שהיה\nראש המחלקה המדינית,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89539/file/185402#t=2802.24,2805.52"},{"id":"https://toldotyisrael.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1818/collection_resources/89539/file/185402/transcript/42701/annotation/614","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"בראש השנה, לבקר את העובדים של המחלקה,\nולברך אותם בשנה 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